Austria

Austria has the potential to amass a huge global empire. Those going for a diplomatic victory better watch out!

I noticed that Austria's loading screen just talks about Maria Theresa's achievements than that of Austria in general. But, they have done that since Polynesia.

Also noticed they have the German and English name for Vienna on the map. Prague is apparently "Prag" and Budapest is "Pest". There are also two other cities on the map.
 

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All the cities on the map except Vienna seem to use their German names or the names that they had during the time of Maria like Prag and not Prague and Pest instead of Budapest, since Buda and Pest weren't one city back in the 18th century.
 
Yep, Buda and Pest wasnt united until 1873
But Buda was more significant than Pest in the 17-18th century
 
The Cities to the south are Laibach which is the german name for the present day capital of slovenia (Ljubljana) and Agram which is an old name for Zagreb, the capital of Croatia.

Personally i think Firaxis should've simply gone with Austrai-Hungary instead of just naming the civ austria. That way we wouldn't have all the nationalistic whining about hungary not being included (I think hungary deserves to be represented in the game, too. But having yet another european civ might be a bad idea, so the inclusion of austria-hungary would've been perfect) . Also that way other ethnic minorities would perhaps also feels represented (Czechs, Croats, Romanians, etc.)
On top of that the Austrian-Hungarian Empire was really huge, both population and landmass wise.
And in a way the time the A-H existed was an small golden age for both sides (until WWI), with many great people being born into and growing up in A-H (Freud, Kafka, etc.)

Btw i'm neither austrian nor hungarian
 
Im interested to see what the citystate cities are like after being annexed/puppeted.
Will the Austrians be buying full on capitals with highly developed infrastructure? Because then the UA could be reeeally good. And if you purchase a Mercantile CS, could you possibly obtain their unique luxury?
Pretty excited to test all the new civs out this summer!
 
And in a way the time the A-H existed was an small golden age for both sides (until WWI), with many great people being born into and growing up in A-H (Freud, Kafka, etc.)

I disagree about it being a golden age. It was a point marked by declining international power, being surpassed by Prussia/Germany. It was also a point of internal division. The reason it became Austria-Hungary was because Austria could no longer rule Hungary and essentially had to give it autonomy. It pales compared to the previous time period when they dominated Europe.
 
What i'm wondering after you purchase a city-state are the going to revolt in that city-state as if conquering it. Like most building be destroyed as well when conquering it?
 
What i'm wondering after you purchase a city-state are the going to revolt in that city-state as if conquering it. Like most building be destroyed as well when conquering it?

Anything less than a friendly assimilation with all pop and buildings intact would be weird. It's not a conquest, it's a "marriage"!
 
Yeah, I hope you even get units. But you certainly should get all buildings.

I suppose they could increase the price of the city-state depending on how good it is, though.
 
"I disagree about it being a golden age. It was a point marked by declining international power, being surpassed by Prussia/Germany. It was also a point of internal division. The reason it became Austria-Hungary was because Austria could no longer rule Hungary and essentially had to give it autonomy. It pales compared to the previous time period when they dominated Europe."

Well yea i know they had a lot of internal problems concerning all the ethnic minorities, but economy wise they were doing really well compared to other european powers (see here) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Austria-Hungary and like i said there was also a lot of cultural productivity.
They only did so badly in WWI because their military etat was not as high as those of germany or france, etc.
 
Unfortunately, this most "diplomatic" of abilities will work against a "diplomatic" victory, since you'll be eliminating the vote a city-state that was allied and so would have voted for you.

It's a neat ability, it's just the "diplomatic" victory mechanism that's still stupid.

Yeah, I don't think it's good for diplomatic victory, I think it's good for other victories. My first game will probably be Austria, but I'm going for conquest. I'll take the city-state in order to have a platform for invasion.
 
33 days left sigh :sleep:
 
33 days left sigh :sleep:

It's only been a week since the last info release and I'm already jonesing for the next one. When will it be? E3? Sooner?
 
Anything less than a friendly assimilation with all pop and buildings intact would be weird. It's not a conquest, it's a "marriage"!

I wonder what this marriage will be like?

Like Austrian built: just increase SP costs or

like annexed increase SP cost and courthouse bug decreased unhappiness

like puppet: gold and science no SP cost increase.

So far I liked being allied with a CS, but maybe it will be so difficult that marrying will be much easier to keep a constant access to luxuries or natural wonders.

Cultural diplomacy has increased the resources granted, so one could get twice as much uranium or aluminium etc. I wouldn't want to miss that.

And as far as the CS are concerned: most often they are on tiny islands with a couple of resources but allmost no land.
 
Gruss Gott folks,

So another first poster here! I was just reading this last night and felt the need to explain something. Now, I am neither Austrian nor related to anyone Austrian but as a historian I feel that Austria certainly deserves her place amongst the Civs. I also agree that, given enough time and resources, Hungary and Poland and the Khmer and Burgundy and the Mamluks and the Rajputs and whomsoeverpulleththeswordfromthestoneshallbecrownednextdlc etc etc but seriously, what's with the Austria hate?

Austria is not Germany. Yes they speak German, but in the same way America speaks English but is in know way Britain. Indeed, America was once part of Britain while Austria never was German (apart a brief annexation under Hitler). Perhaps prior to the creation of 'Germany' in 1879 (stressing here that Germany never existed as an entity before this), Austria was considered by the Großdeutschland advocates as a part of the German Reich, but Austria has made a very significant separate contribution to world history, well, Austria.

From Otto the First defeating the Hungarians and reestablishing the Holy Roman Empire as a German dominated institution in 900 hundred and whatever it was, through Frederick Barbarossa the scourge of the papacy, through Charles the Fifth who ruled the Austrian Empire (Austria and great swathes of Eastern Europe), the Spanish Empire (Spain, much of the New World, the Spanish Netherlands and Southern Italy) and significant chunks of northern Italy in 1500 and whatever it was, through Joseph II and Maria Theresia the models of Enlightenment Monarchs, through Metternich the Austrian diplomat who reshaped the map of Europe after the defeat of Napoleon, through World War One, through the spy networks and summits of the cold war to now. Culturally, Austria was a hotbed of baroque architecture, classical music (Mozart was not actually from Austria but Salzburg when it was independent, still an undoubtably Austrian place), psychology (Freud), economics (the Austrian School, anyone?) and a thousand other things, not to mention the glories of Vienna 1900. Oh, and schnitzel.

Seriously, Austria deserves its place as a Civ. I for one will relive the the majesty of the Hapsburg reich with glee (you know, by building such Austrian wonders as the Porcelain Tower and following the footsteps of Metternich by burning down Antium...) anyway.

I do have a couple of qualms though. I'd much rather have Joseph than Maria as leader, although I guess there's the diversity thing, and the opening scene is a little shoddy in my opinion. I would also rather have had Gebirgsjäger than Hussars, but most of all I'm disappointed by the name of the special ability. Seriously, AEIOU (look it up :P ) would fit perfectly as a name for it, but even something as banal as 'Hapsburg Hegemony' or 'Empire of many crowns' would fit nicely... Anyhow, you'll all be glad to know I've finally finished.

Bis gleich!
 
I do have a couple of qualms though. I'd much rather have Joseph than Maria as leader, although I guess there's the diversity thing, and the opening scene is a little shoddy in my opinion. I would also rather have had Gebirgsjäger than Hussars, but most of all I'm disappointed by the name of the special ability. Seriously, AEIOU (look it up :P ) would fit perfectly as a name for it, but even something as banal as 'Hapsburg Hegemony' or 'Empire of many crowns' would fit nicely...

I don't really care about the leader, it was only because of female diversity
Absolutely agreed on both of your other points
Gebirgsjäger would have been way more fitting for Austria, even if we don't consider the Hungarian factor into Hussars
And Frederick III's A.E.I.O.U. is just plain awesome as a name for the UA :)
 
Maria Theresa wasn't picked only for diversity. She's a very good choice no matter. She's actually the first choice that popped into my mind for a leader of Austria as well. If anything, I'd argue that, if diversity factored in, it was because Maria Theresa influenced Firaxis to pick the Austrians, not the other way around.
 
What do you think makes the hussar different from all the other cavalry types like cossack and and so forth and please no talk of there origin just whats the promotion of upgrade. As for the coffee house maybe +1 food perhaps +3 culture +2 gold and 2 great artist slot.
 
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