Battlefield 3
- Thread starter Maniacal
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EA clearly wants to alienate their customers.
http://bf3blog.com/2011/08/origin-license-agreement-gives-ea-right-to-collect-and-share-your-data/
uat2d
ಠ_ಠ
If there's something you can count on EA is for them to screw up with a good series.
Kozmos
Jew Detective
Steam does this too.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Steam EULA
tl;dr all the information is just what is involved with Steam. Pretty standard and makes sense. Lots of developers track similar stuff in non-Steam games too (like Mass Effect 2, Halo, etc etc).
EA's EULA
Whereas EA's EULA doesn't specify it to just Origin, but indicates everything and sharing it with 3rd parties.
Programs like Punkbuster (which you more than likely have installed) also monitor your computer and software usage. Google (and many websites and advertisements) track you online. The list goes on.
tl;dr all the information is just what is involved with Steam. Pretty standard and makes sense. Lots of developers track similar stuff in non-Steam games too (like Mass Effect 2, Halo, etc etc).
EA's EULA
Whereas EA's EULA doesn't specify it to just Origin, but indicates everything and sharing it with 3rd parties.
Programs like Punkbuster (which you more than likely have installed) also monitor your computer and software usage. Google (and many websites and advertisements) track you online. The list goes on.
Kozmos
Jew Detective
They will still peddle your info to others as indicated by the later part. I'm betting there is also a part where they reserve the right to change any part of the TOS at their leisure.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Good news everybody! EA fixed the EULA.
Original:
Now it says this:
http://www.ea.com/1/product-eulas
Original:
Now it says this:
http://www.ea.com/1/product-eulas
KMRblue1027
Deity
The beta's finally coming! September 27th (29th for all you non MoH folks) 
http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield3/1/beta
http://www.battlefield.com/battlefield3/1/beta
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
You mean the 29th for anyone who didn't waste their money 
uat2d
ಠ_ಠ
Also going to be till 10th of October on the exact same map with the exact same game mode.
Also, bugs found know will never get fixed in time to their release.
I'd call it a demo.
Also, bugs found know will never get fixed in time to their release.
I'd call it a demo.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Strange they will only have one map, that is just lazy. The RO2 beta started off with two maps, then they swapped them out for 3 others, then swapped those out for the other ~5 maps and they fixed a tonne of bugs during the beta (and still are releasing patches every couple of days or so to tune up any remaining issues). That was a good beta.
uat2d
ಠ_ಠ
If this was reddit I'd be downvoted heavily for this, but I can sense EA pulling one of those stuns on us quite easily.
The game is just insanely hyped and the alpha issues plus the beta being in the same map just increase suspicions that they're focusing on that map and keeping it good for marketing purposes while ignoring others.
They've already ruined great games (I shall never forget about Mercenaries 1oD illegitimate son) and considering how stale the MW series is, they just showcase some nice graphics and how more fancy they are than its competition and are able to sit on a ton of money.
BC2 still today has issues, AFAIK there are still people under Vietnam with PBR boats and even the wrong victory/loss text issue which has been around for the longest time have not yet been fixed.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I'm not going to rush to get the game, I'll give it a month. If there's good feedback, I'll gladly buy it, if there isn't (which is what I'm afraid of), I won't have wasted good money on another game that only sold as it did because of its predecessors and its ads.
The game is just insanely hyped and the alpha issues plus the beta being in the same map just increase suspicions that they're focusing on that map and keeping it good for marketing purposes while ignoring others.
They've already ruined great games (I shall never forget about Mercenaries 1
oD illegitimate son) and considering how stale the MW series is, they just showcase some nice graphics and how more fancy they are than its competition and are able to sit on a ton of money.BC2 still today has issues, AFAIK there are still people under Vietnam with PBR boats and even the wrong victory/loss text issue which has been around for the longest time have not yet been fixed.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I'm not going to rush to get the game, I'll give it a month. If there's good feedback, I'll gladly buy it, if there isn't (which is what I'm afraid of), I won't have wasted good money on another game that only sold as it did because of its predecessors and its ads.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
This (obviously) isn't reddit, no one here cares what would happen if you posted this there.
Yeah it is rather suspicious, they really should include more than one map and game mode. Though it will still sell like hotcakes and millions of people will still enjoy the crap out of it.
KMRblue1027
Deity
Well I've just played my first 2 games of the beta and it's fantastic so far. Even on an Xbox the graphics are absolutely beautiful just a bit glitchy right now. Gameplay wise it's good so far although the lack of conquest is depressing. Audio has been lackluster at best. The guns simply do not sound like weapons right now and the game overall is too quiet. Long stretches of silence is something that I really wouldn't expect on a battlefield.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Iirc they recorded the actual gun sounds firing and they really aren't as loud as they often are in movies and games. Also for some reason the Alpha trial is still in my Origin account 
EDIT: Good news everybody!
EDIT: Good news everybody!
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
If this was reddit I'd be downvoted heavily for this, but I can sense EA pulling one of those stuns on us quite easily.
The game is just insanely hyped and the alpha issues plus the beta being in the same map just increase suspicions that they're focusing on that map and keeping it good for marketing purposes while ignoring others.
They've already ruined great games (I shall never forget about Mercenaries 1
BC2 still today has issues, AFAIK there are still people under Vietnam with PBR boats and even the wrong victory/loss text issue which has been around for the longest time have not yet been fixed.
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me. I'm not going to rush to get the game, I'll give it a month. If there's good feedback, I'll gladly buy it, if there isn't (which is what I'm afraid of), I won't have wasted good money on another game that only sold as it did because of its predecessors and its ads.
Except EA isn't developing the game, DICE is, and more importantly the beta for BC2 only had one map and game mode, Rush on Port Valdez. They can't give people the entire game that would be a giant download and defeat the purpose of a beta. We're only supposed to test the gameplay and balance, and get a view of what the game is like. They've already made hundreds of changes since Alpha testing, and any changes they make during Beta will be a day one patch. You really don't understand game development.
As for Vietnam, there aren't any game breakers in it, and the wrong win/loss screen is minor and causes no real effects as they are simple video files.
I once again say, EA IS NOT DEVELOPING AND HAS NO SAY IN THE CREATION OF THIS GAME, they are simply publishing it as per the contract with DICE.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
Except EA completely owns DICE and can tell them what to do if they really want to, though they mostly seem to keep their grubby hands off the game except when it comes to DLC which I think they have lots of control over.
That previous Battlefield betas only had one map and one game mode isn't an excuse for not including some bloody variety or testing more maps. It's 2011, there is no good reason or excuse for not having multiple maps in something that amounts to little more than a beta demo. That it is going to sell well, this is how they have always done it, be a good game, or that they are too big to care are not valid reasons/excuses regardless of how true they may be.
And Port Valdez still kind of sucks.
That previous Battlefield betas only had one map and one game mode isn't an excuse for not including some bloody variety or testing more maps. It's 2011, there is no good reason or excuse for not having multiple maps in something that amounts to little more than a beta demo. That it is going to sell well, this is how they have always done it, be a good game, or that they are too big to care are not valid reasons/excuses regardless of how true they may be.
And Port Valdez still kind of sucks.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
We aren't playtesting maps, that would be counter intuitive to the marketing, we're just balancing the weapons and upgrades. If you give players everything in the beta there is no reason to purchase the game.
KMRblue1027
Deity
Except for the fact that you know it disables itself on Oct 3rd or so.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
I never asked for everything just a couple more maps and they can be rotated in and out. I've also seen quite a few complaints about how Metro is in need of balancing and there are a number of map glitches (rocks aren't bullet proof, areas you can fall through the map, etc).
