bed_08 - OCC Deity

[bed_head7]

I tried one in AG16, and I was at the helm when we were sneak attacked by the Celts. I have wanted to try it again since.

All of the following copied directly from AG16, as I basically just wanted to try it again.

VARIANT RULES
-Deity OCC, with Space or Conquest as Gold medal wins, 20K culture as Silver medal win and UN as bronze medal win. UN and culture are only in this list because I expect that Conquest and Space are too difficult. But who knows...
-Standard map
-AI Aggression: normal
-Opponents: 5 random AI's.
-Rules: Standard, all standard single player victories enabled
-Barbarians: No barbarians/sedentary
-Level: Deity
-C3C 1.22
-Soft OCC: at the end of the turn we may not have more than one city. During the turn we may have as many as we want. So we are allowed to demand cities for peace and then abandon them.
-We may not build cities ourselves!
-Popped settlers have to be joined into the city.

Roster:
Kaiser_Berger
ThERat
sanabas
Beorn-eL-Feared
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bed_head7

 

[Kaiser_Berger]

Sign me up. Always wanted to try one myself.

 

[bed_head7]

Sure thing. Glad to have you on board.

Roster:
Kaiser_Berger
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bed_head7

 

[ThERat]

It's a tough one, but I am in again, if you take me

 

[bed_head7]

Yeah, like I am going to say no to you.

Roster:
Kaiser_Berger
ThERat
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bed_head7

I was thinking we might do something like in Gr4, where each player chooses the settings, and plays maybe 25 turns, and then we take the best start. How does that sound? I'll post the exact specifications if this sounds desirable. If not, I'll generate some options tonight or tomorrow morn.

 

[ThERat]

25 turns initially sounds good, we might have a better shot that way

 

[sanabas]

Haven't tried an OCC before, keen to try one, so yes please from me.

 

[bed_head7]

Alrighty, we'll go with something like what Greebley did then. This game is turning into a hodgepodge of stolen ideas/specifications. Everyone, play 25 turns with the following parameters, and we'll choose starts from there.

Parameters:
Patch: 1.22 C3C
Level: Deity
Variant: OCC
Civilization: TBD
Water: TBD
Map Type: TBD
Size:Standard
Age: TBD
Temperature: TBD
Climate: TBD
Barbarians: TBD
Rivals: Random
AI Aggression: Normal
Victory Condition: All are enabled.
Culturally linked starts: OFF
Respawn: Off
Preserve Random Seed: On
Cultural Conversion: On
SGLs: TBD

Oh, welcome aboard sanabas.

Roster:
Kaiser_Berger
ThERat
sanabas
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bed_head7

 

[ThERat]

save

Pre-Turn
my take are Russians, but map is small pangaea
Barbs sedentary
the rest is random

1.4000BC
found Moskow on the spot

5.3750BCBC
we get CB from a hut

[B6.3700BC[/B]
meet the French
CB and pottery gets us masonry

9 3550BC
meet Celts, masonry and 10g gets us WC

10.3500BC
get alphabet for WC from French

16.3200BC
meet Aztecs, they are down 3 techs

18.3100BC
meet Greece

21.2950BC
Aztecs know IW

22.2900BC
we get the wheel, can't get IW but a worker for the wheel

23.2850BC
Celts also know IW
can trade 3 techs for IW
meet last Civ, India

25. 2750BC
there are 3 sources of iron nearby, but not in our land, we have 1 lux, shield rich land
currently 1 scout, 2hp warriors, 1 worker and 1 slave, granary is up, next rax

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I'd be glad to take the challenge, if you'll take me in

 

[bed_head7]

ThERat, a couple of things. Do you think that we'll make it to Cossacks without the Colossus? Besides, one of the only things that was required was a standard sized map. So if you actually want your start to be chosen, you are making it difficult on yourself.

Roster:
Kaiser_Berger
ThERat
sanabas
Beorn-eL-Feared
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bed_head7

With five now, why don't we get this going as soon as everyone has put up a possible start, or a start jumps out at us that screams to be played.

 

[Kaiser_Berger]

70% Water Pangaea
Barbs Sedentary
Wet, Temperate, 4 billion

Roll a few starts, best one is as Spain. Average start, but it does have ivory.

4000

Madrid founded.

3550

Persia is right next door.

3100

Ivory hooked up.

Meet Mongols and Rome. Trade Rome CB for BW and 20g.

Colossus started.

2750

Colossus due in 34, which will drop next turn due to mine.


Summary

I think its not too shabby. Might be worth a whirl.

 

[bed_head7]

3100 BC (18) - Meet Portugal. Buy a worker for 70g, 3gpt.

3000 BC (20) - Meet Spain. No trades available.

2850 BC (23) - Meet Arabia. No trades available.

I haven't managed to get Bronze Working yet, and no gold available with which to buy it. However, Amsterdam has a granary, four workers and one slave, a luxury, four BGs and two cows. All of the workers should mean that as soon as we do get Bronze Working, we should be able to build it in a hurry, as we will be fully improved in the capital by turn 50, when writing comes in. We could then build Colossus in 9 turns. I don't know if that is too late at this level. There are also two curraghs exploring.

 

[bed_head7]

sanabas, Beorn-eL-Feared, do you have any starts that you want to put forward, or are you content to take one posted above?

Any lurkers, there is still another spot available if you want it. I prefer to take six players when possible, though five will certainly do fine here.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

I'll play one tonight, haven't had time to get a decent amount of time for myself lately, but by friday it'll be much easier. So bbl with a start

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

Carthage, 80% water.

4000 found Carthage, mine a wine. Heading for 2 warriors-granary, searching pots at full.

3650 seeing tealish and pinkish borders

3550 GilliGilligamesh is up WC, CB, BW and pots. Mao does not have alpha or BW. I hurry up and trade him our alphabet (chinese alphabet is too complicated, they should be glad I gave them more standard stuff) before he buys it off the sumerians for crumbles of apple pie. Brief: pot, CB, WC for alpha+5gpt+1g. Researching writing at min.

3450 Open up a barb goodie hut beside the chinese capital, misfortunately an archer intercepts them before they attack chinese workers.

3200 Meet Jules and Cathy, Jules is down masonry and up BW, trade for it +4g. Cathy and Gilligan-amesh are up mysticism, Cathy has the wheel. Egypt still to discover.

2750 Temple on the queue, 2 forests will be chopped soon, granary is running. Couldn't get a deal for wheel or mysticism: Cathy has both, Mao has the wheel and Gilli has mysticism. Will probably be able to lock on a deal once the gpt agreement expires with Mao.

All are annoyed with us, it must be the beard. Spotted ivory to the east and spices up north. Got wines. Carthage size 2, 2 warriors exploring, no extra food around so I don't have a spectacular size 5 with 4 workers but I feel it has potential enough to be posted. Screenshot pending

 

[bed_head7]

so I don't have a spectacular size 5 with 4 workers

I am all about growth. Even on Deity, I'll have 5-7 cities before starting to build a military. You'll notice that I don't have any military in my game.

 

[ThERat]

I suggest to go either with KB's or bedhead's start to get this rolling

 

[sanabas]

Yeah, ditto to what ThERat said. I haven't played a decent start yet, either bedhead's or KB's start will do, very slight preference for bedhead's.

 

[Beorn-eL-Feared]

My take on bed_head's, that start is an impressive kickoff if I ever saw one.

edit: I said the exact opposite of what I meant to; god I need to practice my english more.