Bede01:Funny thing happened...

Should we look at grabbing as much land as possible with the fewest number of cities possible? Are we already over our OCN?
 
To the best of my knowledge our OCN is 28. I haven't counted our towns recently

We were definitely heading toward Communism. Also, the specialists available with Nationalism and RepParts are major mitigators of corruption. Combine them with Communism and you can have lots of cities with 0 corruption (lost gold) and virtually no waste (lost shields).

Thanks, barbslinger. We sure did
 
Um...guys, I have no problem with communism... it's just that there's this slight hurdle we need to get over first. We're in the Middle Ages, remember? :p
 
Bede01- Romans – 740AD
Preturn – Looks like a lot of towns are are growing their own britches and I really don’t want to increase the lux for just a few, so I slow the growth down taking the floodplain citizen and let him generate some revenue. Kick up the science to get PP in 4. Let’s check on diplomacy. We’re behind but look to catch up with PP and hopefully meet the other guys. Abe will let us know if there are others with in galley distance in 4. Our galley is headed north no matter how much he whines. Military has a ton of unit costs but that is the price you pay having the best military in the world. This isn’t good news. Abe can trade me his world map???? Navigation already? I can give him spices, our world map and 60g to get his but, our map has to be worth a ton with all the land we own. Unless Abu has sold to him already. I’m going to wait on PP and then see. I give him spices for 135g and his territory map though. Borders are close, a couple turns. Changed a few military builds to happy/culture builds. Let’s go sailing and bye-bye Abu.

IT – Baghdad – Temple > Aqueduct, Syracuse – Rax > Wkr (for it’s unmining grass), Corfinum – Wkr > Wkr.

[1] 750AD – the FLEDGLING ARABS are destroyed. Figuring out where to put towns up there. Think I’ll wait on Egypt just a bit. Swapped a far east build to galley. Pisae goes to temple losing a few shields.

IT – America declares on Iroquois. Mecca – MDI> Cath, Pisae – Temple > 10s 3-turn horses, Arretium – Harbor > Court. Palace expansion.

[2] 760AD – We meet the Zulu who are up the 3 same techs as everyone else but really weak. Really praying for PP now. Moving units. Thinking about knocking science to 80?% to get PP in one. Almost our entire nestegg. Nah.

IT – Rome – Temple > Horse, CeasarAug – Ct > Market, Londonium – Rushed Galley > Settler to move town.

[3] 770AD – Threaten Zulu for Gunpowder. He is not that chicken. Moving around. Still can’t figure out what to do with leader. Army I guess. Have a feeling we’ll own Washington someday. Also tell Egypt to get her worker out of territory. Maybe she’ll declare in a couple. Moving units.

IT – PP comes in and is a monopoly. China pops on F4. Forgot the builds I was so excited. Palace expansion.

[4] 780AD – Abe has no Iron! I get contact with the Iro’s for outdated CoL from Japan. Gunpowder + 105g + 3gpt from Abe for PP. He’ll give a lot for Iron. No dice. Well, to get to chemistry it would be all our gold and PP to Egypt. I think Abe will get some Iron. WM + Chemistry + Silks for Iron and 230g. He is up Metallurgy at monopoly. For Chemistry we get Education + 31g + a worker from Egypt. We get 49g (all) from Shaka for PP. No need for Chivalry. We’re headed for cavs. Looks like a battle between the big dogs over there. GOOD! We should get involved soon. As soon as we get cavs and navigation it is go time. Banking is set for tech and due in 7 at –1gpt but looking to improve on that now that we have silks. We have 3 salts, none of which are hooked up. Scouts Island in the East has one underneath Verona, one right next to Hispalis and one near Byzantium. No one has any lux available. Iro’s, Japan and America have Astronomy. America is up Music, Navigation, Banking and perhaps more. He’s going to be tough to beat now that I gave him Iron. Perhaps we can get him to declare but I would hate to lose the lux. Embassy with IRO reveals 20spt, 9 muskets and building knights, 5 lux. American now has iron hooked up near Atlanta so I may have gotten the deal just in time. Whew. He has another one too. I’m swapping Cumae’s cathedral to palace for a wonder in there somewhere. ToG? I build an army with the other leader and swap the Cumae ToG prebuild to Penaton prebuild or hand build. I’m thnking about a musket army overseas to decimate their infrastructure.

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IT – Pisae – Horse > Horse, Ravenna – Temple > Aqueduct, Ceasarea – Ct > Harbor. We’re going to need some ships in this game. America lands a warrior settler in a choice spot in the far NE.

[5] 790AD – We get a two-fer of banking for 27gpt+45g+Ivory +WM from Iros. Banking+6gpt to Shaka for Astronomy. Economics in 10 turns. Antium cathedral swapped to Smiths prebuild. Need to fix some tiles there. 5 cities swap to banks. I declare on Cleo. Pisae swapped to settler to take tundra towns place.
Asyut falls to a lone AC. Capture 2 workers, others move in for kills.

IT – They had a sword hiding in Lisht that kills our MDI. Zulu building Copes. America settles in NE.

[6] 800AD – Destroy the tundra town of Cleos. Kill 2 spears in Lisht leaving injured sword.

IT – Nada but an AC. Cleo is headed for Varona (salt) with a galley.

[7] 810AD – We take Lisht and Buto. Continent clear of Cleo. She don’t want to talk yet. Wish Shaka would build a harbor. We have spices available for trade now. Iros would give nav for spice 16gpt and 130g OR 320g for spices but I think we’ll be bagging all the techs with Econ. Shaks port would help too.

IT – Viro – Pike > Bank, Selucia - Temple > Harbor. Zulu has Sistines, Egypt has Copes, America has Magellans and is building Smiths, shoot. But it is being built in New Orleans which makes 7 shields tops. Egypt di not land at Verona but are probably headed for empty cities in Jungle

[8] 820AD – Leaders headed there now. Shaka has a harbor! Since he has the Glib I’m thinking we can get a better deal when he gets a tech that the Iros finally research. He needs iron too but is not at war. Some nice roads complete.

IT – Iro’s sign the Zulu on to the war against America. Pisae – Settler > Bank (settler on Goto to sestroyed town site), Palmyra – Market>Aque, Eburicum – Harbor > Temple.

[9] 830-840AD – From the Zulu we get 25gpt+172g for Iron and ivory (fullprice), Peace with Egypt yields Navigation + Chivalry + WM for Banking. Iros give 385g for spices, full price. Rush the harbor in Verona for 44g and we will have 2 salts to trade for soon. I kick up science to get econ in 4 at –67gpt with 723 in the bank. I also rush a caravel in Anjar to get more defense to Verona. Upgrade to Musket in Palmyra to go to Verona. Rushed the cort in Jerusalum to get to Aqueduct there. Shuffle some units.

IT – Jerusalum – Court > Aqueduct, Cofinium – Worker > Worker.

[10] 850AD – Must have missed a turn somewhere. Moving the sliders shows Abe will give us his monopoly metal for 190gpt +146+ivory. I think we can wait until 3rd prices.

Lots of deals on the table with salt to sell and cash in hand and econ coming. The Abe-Iro war was very helpful getting us back in the tech forefront. I also noticed a sharp increase in power for us and I think I only built a couple of military units. Now that we have chivalry it may be time to pump some knights for cav upgrade to go invade if need be.
The towns in the NE forty acres were placed on hills to provide irrigation to get through. We can take the splinter Denver when it gets to pop2. Let Abe send units, we have elites at the ready.

850AD SAVE

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That's what I call horsetrading!! Get the horses and the house.

Way to hit on 'em

Order of go:
barbslinger-played the hand he was dealt and did it well
Cuivienen-you got game, girl?
Bede-wiating to hear from Cuivienen
scoutsout
Sir Bugsy-renamed Izaak Walton ' cause he caugth all those trout
 
Slinger is the horse trader extraordinaire! Way to :hammer: Cleo.

Zululand is looking like a very good place to establish a foothold on the other continent.

I think with cavs we could get to domination very quickly. Go for peace with Cleo. About five caravels worth of ACs and MDI can start on Shaka with reinforcements. We would have a nice beachhead to launch the Second Roman-Egyptian war.
 
I am simply in awe of Barbslinger's trading... absolutely incredible leaps forward for us in tech, maps...wow! And knowing that Abe and Hiawatha are at war... that's nice too!

:thumbsup: :goodjob:
 
A thought - it seems to me in Republic we get more unit support for a city than a town... or something... If our military is costing us a bit, we might want to look at what it would take to get a few towns past size 6, and see if that can help a little with the unit costs...
 
Good point scout. A city will support three units as opposed to a town which supports one one unit. Metros are best with 4 unit support.
 
Order of go:
barbslinger-played the hand he was dealt and did it well
Cuivienen-skipped as I haven't heard since 6 May
Bede-playing now
scoutsout-on deck
Sir Bugsy-renamed Izaak Walton ' cause he caught all those trout
 
Quiet times

850AD
Tour the empire. Not much to do for city management. Spend 36g to rush the settler at Londinium. Will move east to the coast to get cattle and forest tiles. Settler from Tyrus will move to the coast between Cyrene and Agrippina for the wheat tile. We will need one more town on the coast between Cyrene and Arretium for the banana grove and the fish.

Ambassadors report:

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Sell Shaka our WM for his maps, 21g and 5gpt.
Japan is broke and ignorant.
Cleo is still pissed at us but will offer maps 19g and 4gpt for our WM
Hiawatha is glad to see us and will pay hisTM and 12g for our WM.
Abe is also glad to see is and will offer his maps and 13g for our WM.
Not bad: 65g and 9gpt for parchment

Abe is the only one ahead of us but boy is he ahead!!

Lots of interest in our saltpeter but no money in hand to pay for it. Only Hiawatha and Abe have cash to psend and both already have it.

Abe will give us 10gpt for ivory. Ship it to try and drain his treasury a little. He's at 218g in hand now and making.

Shift a worker from irrigation duties to add to Cumae to boost output a little

Cleo lands a settler/MDI paid in the northern desert

Antium builds its bank and starts a university

Londinium builds its settler and is abandoned. Arretium builds its worker and starts a barracks. Tyrus builds its settler and is abandoned.

People love me so much they put a dome on the palace.

T1 860
Hem in Cleo's settler in the desert.
Build mines and irrigate in the SE. Road, irrigate and mine in the N

We learn Economics and start on Physics.

Add a worker to Cumae and swap to Smith's due in 30

T2-T4 890
Hiawatha's offer for Economics is dropping. It was a tech of choice, either MT or Democracy plus 250g. It is now MT only plus 100g, or 35gpt plus his WM. Decide there is greater value in gpt then in techs that have minimal brokerage value and not wanting to lose the opportunity, do the deal for 38gpt after a little haggling. If we want to we can pick up MTand Democracy from Cleo but the cash will be useful in maintaining the push to Physics which I think can be sold for Metallurgy and MilTrad. Take the money and turn up the Bunsen Burners towards Physics

T5 900
Abe is really taking it on the chin. Although he has not lost any cities that I can see, he now has workers for sale and nothing left in his treasury

American's start Shake's. War weariness must be a problem.

T7 910
Trade Japan some AA tech, ivory and horses for dyes.

T8 920
Egypt joins in against Abe.

T9 930
Learn Physics one turn after Hiawatha but before Abe. Start max run on Magnetism.

Trade Abe Physics and 160gpt for Metallurgy.

Get 510g +15gpt and his maps from Hiawatha for Metallurgy

Trade Physics to Cleopatra for Wines and her maps

Take 9g+2gpt from Abe for our updated map

We now have all the money except the 160gpt going to Abe.

The wines from Cleo allow us to turn down the entertainment tax and get everybody back to work.

spend some of the gold rushing the temple in Augustadorum

Abe and Hiawatha sign a peace treaty

WLTKD breaks out all over!

T10 950
Not much doing.

Abe has gained ground against the Zulu in his east but lost Miami to the Iroquois in his north.

We are making excellent progress towards our goal of being the first Romans in Space.

The northlands are go to have lots of small cities as the terrain is just not very kind to us up there.

Smith's is due in 20 at Cumae, the Palace is still building in Antium and the Pentagon now at Rome. We stand a good chance of snagging NewtonU as we will be the first to Magnetism and there will be no meaningful cascade unless Abe switches to Smiths from Shakes in Atlanta

Research is set at 90% with no scientists and -297gpt. All those small towns in the north are hurting our scinece effort. We might want to consider selling the barracks in the waist towns.

A little judicious short rushing in the north might help in getting harbors in place. The most important thing is population up there. Those towns won't be good for much else until we get to Nationalism for cops (more gold) and Communism to cut the shield waste.

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Order of go (temporary rearrangement):
barbslinger-played the hand he was dealt and did it well
Bede-hasn't fired a shot in anger
Cuivienen-up now.
Sir Bugsy-on deck
scoutsout-waiting his turn

Once scout plays we are back to the original rota.
 
Nice turns, Brother Bede! :thumbsup: It looks like Abe and Hiawatha figured out that there's another big kid on the block!

Now that we've managed to strike a nice 'balance of power', how shall we upset it? :D I like the burn towards Magnetism. We shall need some ships.
 
Ships, what are ships? Galleys were all our ancestor Aeneas needed.

If this all works out we willl hit the IA running, with an economic powerhouse supporting the drive to Alpha C. If it doesn't, well, get out the pointy toys again.
 
After a bit of hacking, I've got things working. If we're looking at Alpha C, I don't think there's anything else we need to conquer, except for that blot of blue on our northern coast.

If we're looking for domination, Zulu is a a prime target right now.
 
@Cuivienen-you got game?

It's past the 24, so if Cuivienen doesn't post "got it" today it's over to scoutsout and we'll stay with the original order.

Original order of go:
barbslinger
Cuivienen
Bede
scoutsout
Sir Bugsy
 
Great, have some fun!

Order of go (temporary rearrangement):
barbslinger-played the hand he was dealt and did it well
Bede-hasn't fired a shot in anger
Cuivienen-playing now.
Sir Bugsy-on deck
scoutsout-waiting his turn

Once scout plays we are back to the original rota.

Original order of go:
barbslinger
Cuivienen
Bede
scoutsout
Sir Bugsy
 
As posted in post #11: Usual 24/48 rule, please! so,
:cry: I really don't like to do this but...

Order of go:
barbslinger
Cuivienen-skipped
Bede-swapped
scoutsout-UP Take it away!
Sir Bugsy-on deck

And...
I'll be without game or net access all next week (Friday wil be earliest I can participate), so please skip if necessary
 
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