Bede04B-The Greasy Silver Spoon (C3C1.22)
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TimBentley
Deity
3000(0)-set Babylon to emphasize production
2950(1)-zzz
2900(2)-meet Maya, who are up masonry, pottery, WC, they have incense
IBT-Babylon barracks->spearman (to be changed)
2850(3)-zzz
IBT-learn alphabet
2800(4)-Maya has two workers for sale
sell alphabet to Maya for 2 workers
sell alphabet to Sumeria for WC, pottery, 35g
switch Babylon to bowman
We're already paying unit costs, so I start min research on writing and raise lux to 20%
2750(5)-Mayans learn the wheel, Aztecs learn masonry and the wheel, but they want too much for either
IBT-Babylon bowman->bowman
2710(6)-lower lux to 10%
2670(7)-Sumeria knows mysticism, they want too much for it
2630(8)-zzz
IBT-Babylon bowman->bowman
2590(9)-Celts know the wheel, mysticism; Sumeria knows the wheel
buy mysticism from Celts for alphabet, 3g
It appears Maya do not know everybody, while Aztecs do
buy masonry and the wheel from Maya for mysticism, 7g
2550(10)-Forgot to clear the Aztecs' and Celts' pockets, Aztecs know mysticism, Celts know masonry
Notes: At size 5 Babylon can produce 10spt (once the grassland is mined)
Here is the save.
2950(1)-zzz
2900(2)-meet Maya, who are up masonry, pottery, WC, they have incense
IBT-Babylon barracks->spearman (to be changed)
2850(3)-zzz
IBT-learn alphabet
2800(4)-Maya has two workers for sale
sell alphabet to Maya for 2 workers
sell alphabet to Sumeria for WC, pottery, 35g
switch Babylon to bowman
We're already paying unit costs, so I start min research on writing and raise lux to 20%
2750(5)-Mayans learn the wheel, Aztecs learn masonry and the wheel, but they want too much for either
IBT-Babylon bowman->bowman
2710(6)-lower lux to 10%
2670(7)-Sumeria knows mysticism, they want too much for it
2630(8)-zzz
IBT-Babylon bowman->bowman
2590(9)-Celts know the wheel, mysticism; Sumeria knows the wheel
buy mysticism from Celts for alphabet, 3g
It appears Maya do not know everybody, while Aztecs do
buy masonry and the wheel from Maya for mysticism, 7g
2550(10)-Forgot to clear the Aztecs' and Celts' pockets, Aztecs know mysticism, Celts know masonry
Notes: At size 5 Babylon can produce 10spt (once the grassland is mined)
Here is the save.
fbouthil
Occasional Mercenary
Ok. I will play tomorrow evening so people have the chance to comment.
Let's try to see how this works out:
Anything I should adjust because of the variant?
Let's try to see how this works out:
- CivAssist say mas & alpha are worth 70g & 87g. I will sell it if the civs that do not know it have around 40g & 50g.
- At min research & lux, we are at +4gpt. In my 10 turns, Babylon should get to size 6 and with lux increasing, I guess we should get an extra +2gpt. About 4 bowman should be built, bringing our net gpt to +2. Hum. We could consider disbanding a few warriors. If I see that I can finish a bowman 1t earlier by disbanding the warrior in garrison, I will do it.
- Try to find the Incas. I am guessing they are SE.
- Explore the Celts borders.
Anything I should adjust because of the variant?
@fbouthil,
Sounds like a plan.
As bowmen come on line, move them toward the Celts. Be alert for opportunities to colonize luxuries.
If you see an opportunity to capture a town with bows, don't worry about the early GA. I think we are going to need the cash and shields to make a push on an exapnding neighbor.
Sounds like a plan.
As bowmen come on line, move them toward the Celts. Be alert for opportunities to colonize luxuries.
If you see an opportunity to capture a town with bows, don't worry about the early GA. I think we are going to need the cash and shields to make a push on an exapnding neighbor.
fbouthil
Occasional Mercenary
2550BC (preturn)
2430BC (3) -
IBT
IBT
IBT
2190BC (9) -
IBT
Actually, I should have let the next player decide if he wanted to disband the warrior or not, but I made a mistake in my timeline and thought I was on turn 9. IW and HR are known by one civ each, but are not tradable yet.
A bowman is exploring the northern border of the Celts. 3 bowman are following him in case an opportunity arises. I think we will need around 8 bowman to conquer their capital.
As an effort to see if we can make a nearby colony, I take a bowman to explore the area around Babylon.
IBTCelts are starting the Oracle. Cool! Garrison will not increase then.
Maya learn IW. I will check every turn to see if it becomes affordable.
2510BC (1)Maya learn IW. I will check every turn to see if it becomes affordable.
Babylon has increased size; lux to 20%.
IBTBabylon: bowman->bowman
2470BC (2) - 2430BC (3) -
IBT
Sumeria learns Mas. They had and still have 0g, so I guess they researched it.
2390BC (4) - IBT
Babylon: bowman->bowman
2350BC (5) - IBT
Aztecs learn HR.
2310BC (6)Still nothing for sales.
2270BC (7)Babylon: bowman->bowman
Babylon grows, but they do not need more lux.
2230BC (8) - Babylon grows, but they do not need more lux.
2190BC (9) -
IBT
Babylon: bowman->bowman
2150BC (10)Jump on the occasion; disband a warrior to get bowman in 2t instead of 3t.
Actually, I should have let the next player decide if he wanted to disband the warrior or not, but I made a mistake in my timeline and thought I was on turn 9. IW and HR are known by one civ each, but are not tradable yet.
A bowman is exploring the northern border of the Celts. 3 bowman are following him in case an opportunity arises. I think we will need around 8 bowman to conquer their capital.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Just so everyone knows, my workload at work has increased significantly. I will have reduced time for the internet. I will be checking in each evening.
Pre-flight: Perfect
IBT, Sumerians are building pyramids.
T1. 2110BC. Keep bowmen moving towards Celts. Warriors explore, workers finished the road->mine.
T2. 2070BC. Babylon bow->bow. stilll nobody wants to trade. Scouting warrior found silks, but far far away from home.
Entered hill near entremont. It's pop is only 4 and it's building oracle. 3 Warriors are parked nearby.
T3. 2030BC. zzzz
T4. 1990BC zzzz
T5. 1950BC. Babylong grows in size. Lux up 30%. we have 0 income. Nobody wants to trade, and Mayans have writing now.
Sold Alphabet to Monty for 24 gold, all he had. His treasury never grew in past 5 turns.
T6. 1910BC. zzzz
T7 1870BC. Babylon bow-temple in 3 turns. Ok, You can hate me, but i am taking a risk and declare on Celts, 4 Bowmen enter Celts land near their capital.
T8 1830BC
Celts Warrior vs Our warrior -> 1hp Our warrior.
Bow vs spear - 1hp Bow. We are officially in golden age.
Bow vs spear - 2 hp bow and we capture Entremont. We also capture 2 slaves.
There are 2 Celts warriors nearby to worry about next turn.
Lux down to 20%
IBT. Celts warriors move to the hill. Mayans are building Pyramid
T9 1790BC.
Vet Bow vs Elite Warrior - 1hp Bow.
Vet Bow vs Reg Warrior - 4hp Bow
Sumeria has mathematic. Adding a second city helped us to get our income to +7gpt. Everybody will sell us everything but math. I can do some trading around, but since it is my last turn, I will let the team to discuss and the next player to decide.
T10 1750AD. Bab. temple->bow. Resistanse in Entremont has ended. Workers just finished improvement, I haven't dispatched them yet. Bowmen are moving towards Lugdunum, another Celts city we can take over. Science slider on 0%. I hired a scientist in Entremont instead of keeping there a clown.
IBT, Sumerians are building pyramids.
T1. 2110BC. Keep bowmen moving towards Celts. Warriors explore, workers finished the road->mine.
T2. 2070BC. Babylon bow->bow. stilll nobody wants to trade. Scouting warrior found silks, but far far away from home.
Entered hill near entremont. It's pop is only 4 and it's building oracle. 3 Warriors are parked nearby.
T3. 2030BC. zzzz
T4. 1990BC zzzz
T5. 1950BC. Babylong grows in size. Lux up 30%. we have 0 income. Nobody wants to trade, and Mayans have writing now.
Sold Alphabet to Monty for 24 gold, all he had. His treasury never grew in past 5 turns.
T6. 1910BC. zzzz
T7 1870BC. Babylon bow-temple in 3 turns. Ok, You can hate me, but i am taking a risk and declare on Celts, 4 Bowmen enter Celts land near their capital.
T8 1830BC
Celts Warrior vs Our warrior -> 1hp Our warrior.
Bow vs spear - 1hp Bow. We are officially in golden age.
Bow vs spear - 2 hp bow and we capture Entremont. We also capture 2 slaves.
There are 2 Celts warriors nearby to worry about next turn.
Lux down to 20%
IBT. Celts warriors move to the hill. Mayans are building Pyramid
T9 1790BC.
Vet Bow vs Elite Warrior - 1hp Bow.
Vet Bow vs Reg Warrior - 4hp Bow
Sumeria has mathematic. Adding a second city helped us to get our income to +7gpt. Everybody will sell us everything but math. I can do some trading around, but since it is my last turn, I will let the team to discuss and the next player to decide.
T10 1750AD. Bab. temple->bow. Resistanse in Entremont has ended. Workers just finished improvement, I haven't dispatched them yet. Bowmen are moving towards Lugdunum, another Celts city we can take over. Science slider on 0%. I hired a scientist in Entremont instead of keeping there a clown.
A nice little war for Brother Bede.
Roster check:
Bede - has a date with Brennus(?). Oh, would it were Isabel
Sir Bugsy - opened the dancing
TimBentley - led a reel
fbouthil - ever the opportunist, went looking for a date
dmanakho - got a partner for the pavane
Got it.
Bede said:
dmanakho - got a partner for the pavane
Got it.
I had to use Webster dictionary to figure out what word "pavane" means
as for the tech trading goes, since we don't have any horse sources close by, we probably should prioritize IW and Writing and leave HB alone for the moment being.
Would be nice to get math from Sumerians but they refuse any trading.
Fairly quiet ten turns. Put the arm on the Celts for all the tech we were missing after the population of Lugdunum shrank to one and the borders had not expanded. There is a Celt settler pair heading south I think. We also got Alesia in the deal. Then put the heat on Philosophy and took Literature as the bonus and started the Great Library in Babylon. After consideration I decided that waiting for the other guys to build the Library so we could take it away was not really smart. WE have more military then we can comfortably support until we can take some more towns and our economy will be crippled by corruption, so spending on science is probably not in the cards.
Then the Aztecs came demanding Mathematics and I told him to stuff it and Monte answered "Here's a spear in your ear!" So we are at war with the Aztecs, at peace with the Celts, and have the technology parity.
There is an iron colony outside the borders of Babylon covered by a bow and I am vectoring the worker force towards the incense.
The two captured towns are building temples for some cheap culture.
Research is set at minimum for Currency, No beakers invested, so change if it apppears advisable. Minimum was chosen to get some cash for a warrior-sword upgrade.
Roster check:
Sir Bugsy - time for a jig, or a waltz? <<<<<<< - UP
TimBentley - in the stag line
fbouthil - checking his dance card
dmanakho - got a partner for the pavane
Bede - got bussed by Brennus
Isabel didn't come play this time.
Then the Aztecs came demanding Mathematics and I told him to stuff it and Monte answered "Here's a spear in your ear!" So we are at war with the Aztecs, at peace with the Celts, and have the technology parity.
There is an iron colony outside the borders of Babylon covered by a bow and I am vectoring the worker force towards the incense.
The two captured towns are building temples for some cheap culture.
Research is set at minimum for Currency, No beakers invested, so change if it apppears advisable. Minimum was chosen to get some cash for a warrior-sword upgrade.
Roster check:
Sir Bugsy - time for a jig, or a waltz? <<<<<<< - UP
TimBentley - in the stag line
fbouthil - checking his dance card
dmanakho - got a partner for the pavane
Bede - got bussed by Brennus
Isabel didn't come play this time.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
dmanakho - we have a long standing tradition in any game with Bede to quote from the dictionary all new words that we learn from him so that the whole team can expand their vocabulary.dmanakho said:I had to use Webster dictionary to figure out what word "pavane" means
Webster's said:
BTW - I have the game. This one is a waltz. One of the few gentlemanly things I learned at the Academy.
fbouthil
Occasional Mercenary
Wow! We already have 3 cities! You guys rock! 
I was thinking that if everything went well, we would not have only slaves at some time, but I did not realize it would be so soon!
BTW, keeping the Celts alive is a good idea. Since we cannot build cities ourselves, having a weak neighbour to build some for us is great!
I suggest to take the bowman in Entremont with the 3 other next to it and the one half way to Technotitlan and go take that city. One of the bowman near Alesia can stay in Entremont for defense soon enough. Technotitlan would give us horses.
BTW, we should not wait for technotitlan to finish the pyramids before capturing it. It will never finish in time: it is size 2 while Ur is size 7. My bet on who will finish the pyramids first is on the Sumerians.
I was thinking that if everything went well, we would not have only slaves at some time, but I did not realize it would be so soon!
BTW, keeping the Celts alive is a good idea. Since we cannot build cities ourselves, having a weak neighbour to build some for us is great!
I suggest to take the bowman in Entremont with the 3 other next to it and the one half way to Technotitlan and go take that city. One of the bowman near Alesia can stay in Entremont for defense soon enough. Technotitlan would give us horses.
BTW, we should not wait for technotitlan to finish the pyramids before capturing it. It will never finish in time: it is size 2 while Ur is size 7. My bet on who will finish the pyramids first is on the Sumerians.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
My thoughts, while not exact, at least very close.
Sir Bugsy
Civ.D.
Pre-flight Everything looks good. Were at war of course. We need to find the Inca.
Early - Spot an Aztec settler pair heading towards Babylon. Upgrade a warrior. The settler pair plants a nice city, close to Babylon. We can ask for that at the peace table.
Entremont: temple=>barracks
Kills: A Jag and an archer
Losses: A bowman.
Middle Kills: Reg warrior, an archerm, and a Jag.
Upgrade a second sword and they head towards the front.
Giglamesh has polytheism and MM and he wants to trade. Well get them for free with the GL, so I dont trade.
End - Monty will talk, straight up peace. We spot Inca lands and meet them. They dont know the alphabet and have 43G. Our GA ends.
Kills: a spear in the Aztec capitol.
March on Texcoco. We killa spear and lose a Bowman.
The Sumerians must be hurting for cash, cause an Endiku just disappeared.
After Action We want Monty to feel much pain so hell give us that city near Babylon to us for peace. Theres one spear in Texcoco, Id let it autoraze. March on the Aztec capitol with our new swords and Bowmen from the south.
SITREP:
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Bede4b,_1250_BC.SAV
Early - Spot an Aztec settler pair heading towards Babylon. Upgrade a warrior. The settler pair plants a nice city, close to Babylon. We can ask for that at the peace table.
Entremont: temple=>barracks
Kills: A Jag and an archer
Losses: A bowman.
Middle Kills: Reg warrior, an archerm, and a Jag.
Upgrade a second sword and they head towards the front.
Giglamesh has polytheism and MM and he wants to trade. Well get them for free with the GL, so I dont trade.
End - Monty will talk, straight up peace. We spot Inca lands and meet them. They dont know the alphabet and have 43G. Our GA ends.
Kills: a spear in the Aztec capitol.
March on Texcoco. We killa spear and lose a Bowman.
The Sumerians must be hurting for cash, cause an Endiku just disappeared.
After Action We want Monty to feel much pain so hell give us that city near Babylon to us for peace. Theres one spear in Texcoco, Id let it autoraze. March on the Aztec capitol with our new swords and Bowmen from the south.
SITREP:
Save: http://www.civfanatics.net/uploads8/Bede4b,_1250_BC.SAV
Roster Check:
TimBentley - Shoot those arrows, do se do
fbouthil - got his date, waiting for a fox trot
dmanakho - got a partner for the pavane
Bede - got bussed by Brennus
Isabel didn't come play this time.Sir Bugsy - Waltzed the Aztec
TimBentley
Deity
Got it. I could say something relating to dancing, but I won't.
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