Beethoven vs Mozart

Who's the overall better composer?


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Beethoven's Ninth is probably the closest thing to musical perfection ever written, but I would still have to play Beethoven as third after Bach and Mozart. Though I consider Mozart's music to be superior, he also didn't write the Ninth while deaf, so I can't unequivocally say that he's unilaterally superior.
 
Mozart might have been more technical (though that's debatable), but Beethoven was more ground-breaking and pretty much single-handedly created the Romantic style.


I especially like his 3rd Symphony.
 
I personally believe Moonlight Sonata is the most beautiful piece of classical music.

I will always be a Beethoven fan, mainly because I played this guy in a play a couple months ago:

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Since we're praising the Germans, I'd like to put a word in for Wagner. Many commentators have remarked that Tannhauser is the finest opera ever written. Parsifal is ethereal and emotional - The Flying Dutchman powerful. Rienzi, Lohengrin (with the Wedding March), Tristan und Isolde, and of course, that Ring thing.
 
Since we're praising the Germans, I'd like to put a word in for Wagner. Many commentators have remarked that Tannhauser is the finest opera ever written. Parsifal is ethereal and emotional - The Flying Dutchman powerful. Rienzi, Lohengrin (with the Wedding March), Tristan und Isolde, and of course, that Ring thing.

Yes, Wagner is amazing. I hope at some point in my life I can see the Ring cycle performed.

Certainly he vies with Verdi and Mozart for the "master of the opera" title... in fact I think Wagner would win that title, but its a close one!
 
Definitely Beethoven. Most people drool about Mozart saying 'oh my god, look how much he wrote'. The guy wrote 100 piano concertos. To me, it's more like he wrote 4 piano concertos 25 times. A lot of Mozart's music is repetitive and frankly annoying. Also, I find it to be overly simplistic.

Whereas Beethoven wrote only 5 piano concertos. But they are all different, interesting, and wonderfully rich. I like certain moments in music, which make me catch my breath and say 'wow, that was a great sound.' Nowhere in Mozart's music can I do that, but in Beethoven... the 3rd and 7th symphonies... I think you can't get better than that.

I am not saying that Mozart is a total waste of time. He did write some absolutely gorgeous pieces. But Beethoven is just so far ahead for me.

However, Mahler beats both.:D
 
I used to lean to Mozart, but I'm now firmly in the LvB camp. Sheer ingenuity beats prodigious talent and perfection of a form.
 
I always find Haydn more interesting than either. I think Mozart is largely overrated, with a tendency to use the same formulae repeatedly; I think popularity sustains his reputation on its own more than merit does. His music lacks the interesting polyphony and interaction between the parts that can be found in Haydn, and I think that this interaction makes Haydn's music considerably more attractive than Mozart's.

Beethoven is better, in my opinion, than Mozart, but his romantic leanings mean his work has a different appeal to me from Haydn's. Haydn, I think, is the most interesting figure of Classicism, but with Beethoven's music, while he shares many of Mozart's music's features (while sharing somewhat less, I think, with Haydn), the most interesting features are the features that he shares with the Romantic composers. However, I find that these features are underdemonstrated compared to later works, and Beethoven's Romanticism is clearly less strong than that of Tchaikovsky or Dvorak, and I therefore incline towards favouring those composers in preference to Beethoven.
 
Yes; I've always found Haydn significantly more interesting and varied.
 
As much as I like Haydn too, and meaning this in no negative way, I would've thought that if anyone were to be described as formulaic, it would be the dude who perfected the sonata form and composed to it over and over again. Sure, there's variation within that framework, but it is most definitely formulaic.
 
Mozart but I may feel this way because i saw Amadeus (the movie) and love way too much his rondo a la turka and the cover by Bobby Lapointe and Boris Vian putting lyrics on that song
 
I grew up in a family where a lot of classical music was playing. Though it never caught my interest much (with the exception of Tchaikovsky and a little Wagner). I know for sure that I've listenened to both Mozart and Beethoven, but could anyone post some youtube videos of their most famous stuff? I won't be able to recognize the music by it's name.
 
Here is the famous Queen of the Night Aria from the Magic flute. Mozart

Link to video.

Here is the 5th movement of Beethoven's 6th Symphony(Pastorale) PErsonally my favourite symphony of his.

Link to video.
 
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