Behind it all...

[naturalsurvival]

Miss Bliss speaks from within, yet from beyond. ON one level it makes no sense. words are just carcusses of meaning in diff. forms of understanding and true realization. this world truly is not one of democracy, of war, politics, etc... it is one of spirit. Everything is possible. You don't know it, but the time is near where everyone can take on the eye of christ, and those who don't will go to places more appropriate for their own growth on a diff world scene. Don't discourage this Life. This possibility, as the place beyond the fense in the yard of unrealism. Just what exactly is one's perception of what is truly real. I am not bones, nor flesh, nor desire. Nothing truly touches me. Just a moment hinting of the external vision, beyond the illusion of mediocre governing of this world.

 

[Pyrite]

I think you're a mystic without meaning with multiple accounts.
It's not that it doesn't make sense.
It's just plain stupid.

 

[Narz]

Nah, they're different people.

 

[Miss Bliss]

Pyrite, it is not a matter of comfort or denial, but an extreme responsibility to own ones own thoughts, so as to choose what world you create, governed by what thoughts you focus upon. Yes, I have had personal experience at altering external world conditions by not going into a fear mentality. I do not wish to enter arguments about the validity of such possibilities. I just feel a responsibility to mention that the power is in ones own hands to shift the world perceived. And there are many tools here on earth to assist in accessing ones inner power.

I understand it can be scary to own your thoughts if they are full of years of matrix open slather propaganda and doctrines...thoughts are like wheels within wheels within.....I am aware that by saying this, it creates it so for me, (if I so let it, by not being aware)...this 'scariness', difficulty or time consuming effort to clear, is not necessary....just go straight into I am THAT

LOL Pyrite.....DMT.....well Yes, but only that which I manifest within, produced from my heart beating in compassionate bliss, when the snake rises and hissing feeds the eagle....

I will cease this line of talk though so you guys can all get to the essence of what is "Behind it All"...

Love to see what emerges from behind the curtain...

 

[Narz]

you didn't answer my question about your knee Miss.

Ok, let me try to keep this thread focused.

Questions :

If you believe my theory to be wrong (that fear is not behind all human suffering) what do you think is?

and...

Well, that's pretty much it. Feel free to digress as needed but that's the main subject I'd like to explore here.

 

[Pyrite]

Pyrite, it is not a matter of comfort or denial, but an extreme responsibility to to own ones own thoughts, so as to choose what world you create governed by what thoughts you focus upon. Yes I have had personal experience at altering external world conditions by not going into a fear mentality. I do not wish to enter arguments about the validity of such possibilities. I feel a responsibility to mention that the power is in ones own hands to shift the world perceived. And there are many tools here on earth to assist in accessing ones inner power.

Well, I shape my perceptions of the world through my thoughts, my thoughts don't exactly shape reality objectively.

I understand it can be scary to own your thoughts if they are full of years of matrix open slather propaganda and doctrines...thoughts are like wheels within wheels within.....I am aware that by saying this, it creates it so for me, (if I so let it, by not being aware)...this 'scariness' or difficulty or time consuming effort to clear, is not necessary....just go straight into I am THAT

What?

LOL Pyrite.....DMT.....well Yes, but only that which I manifest within from my heart beating in compassionate bliss, when the snake rises and hissing feeds the eagle....

I will cease this line of talk though so you guys can all get to the essence of what is "Behind it All"...

Love to see what emerges from behind the curtain...

Well, to achieve that harnessing of DMT that your body naturally produces you have to at one point have taken a large amount of hallucinogens in the first place. Though I find it fairly surprising (although not entirely with suspicion) that you've achieved that. I've heard rumors that one could manage a DMT trip with DMT created naturally. Where's the MAOI come from though?

 

[Miss Bliss]

Aloha Narz! I said, "reality is totally steerable", based upon my own experiences of that.

Hi Natural, thank you for the further elucidation of the nature of fear, illusions and reality.

Pyrite, what I was saying (and excuse that sentence jumble - I agree that was messy) that I understand the idea of owning ones own thoughts could be scary. I then wanted to draw attention to how that in iteself was disempowering. Owning ones thoughts and creating joy, peace and harmony is a powerful catalyst for manifesting heaven on earth. SOme of us would argue that it is already the case, it is just a matter of people waking up to that fact...by not being controlled by fearful thought forms....

fear comes from the reptillian brain stem?

Namasgo, be back l8r,
BlesSings and BlisSings
~s~

 

[naturalsurvival]

Pyrite, Christ knew his destiny. He merged with the eye, percieved the illusion, and accepted his path and soul expression in that life for the purposes that are not always absolutely known. How many people take into them the man that "died for their sin". What, considering the consciousness of the world, would be the unfolding history and current world mind, if he never accepted that action and never stood on the cross, watching as people morned over the pain of the body. His message is what he wanted to impart, and told his community and lovers of the sacred heart that to give yourself for the world you gain everything. He knew. He accepted. Today, many take the cult of the current christian teachings and all the bullfeathers that goes with it, but gain the unconditional heart to some degree, and anchor the christ energy. Do you believe you can possibly deny that you don't always know the hidden purposes?

I did not elude to their being a meaningful reason for the experience of sorrow and misery in the world due to fear. I only eluded to the cause. Read me carefully. do you also notice that i am not here downcasting anyone. I do not build baracades and blow bullets in your face because i want to shed some light. I only want to shed some light, and am not willing to do it at any means. Can't you do the same? Anyways, accept the insight or not, it is not my own, but is within us both. Feel it reflecting and bringing clarity to the surface.

 

[Babbler]

Of course, 'behind it all' the thoughts we sustain and hold in mind create the world we experience...

If all circumstantial form is made up of energetic particles, it is a reasonable train of thought that everyone experiences the same elemental energies/forces that work upon the fabric of this place. And if this is so, then 'misery' or rapture is an individuals own hardwiring perogative projection onto the unbiased streaming screen of source currency flow...

I got only one thing to say:

I want what the frick he's on.

 

[Fifty]

I got only one thing to say

Hard it isn't for the path is clear. ~~~

For the one true self to bespeak of the intentionally-obscure-to-try-and-look-deep-and-intellectual self, the flower must simply revel in the glory of deliberate ambiguity and superficial artsy-ness.

If he is to become truly enlightened and reach the apex of his rightful energy, the flower must then attempt to mask this charade by claiming it does not see any ambiguity at all.

Thus the soil of our hearts shapes reality to manifest itself as a remarkably annoying flower.


OnWarD and UpWaRd,

He who's name speaks of what our reality calls a "number"

~~()~~

 

[Miss Bliss]

O he whose name speaks of what our reality calls a number, you reveal one/yourself in an interesting manner, perhaps unawarely too...sounds like you know the place of superficiality well...

Isn't the sole/soul purpose of flow ers to BeAm in the Flow, as Flower of Formless forming? The flower I am is the flow beyond formed flow...where is fear here? I do not see it...

Infinite potentialities...I Flow where I Flower, and that flowering is where Eye blinks...

50, I love your signature quote... edit: Well, I did! But, you have changed it now!
Babbler, devour your heart

 

[naturalsurvival]

What one beautiful person connects with is a truth regardless of whether you understand it. But to help make something clear... just flow in the flower of your own love.
The greatest contribution any one person can make in the world, is infinately beyond all intellectual debate. Intellectual consideration, when it comes down to it, is but chaffe falling off the skin of true contribution, the heart of the soul blooming and giving the fragrance of selflessness!!!!! That alone would change the world phenomenally. Intellectualism without the intention of an open heart is dry and airy. It doesn't move much. The reason there is famine and war in the world is not due to pollitical neediness, econmonical bankruptcy, or geographical hardship and lack... it is due to a closed heart in the lobbiests, in the advertisers who control the eye of our country, and those who choose seperation and financial interest. The greatest thing that would reveal our world reaching new heights, settling in herself as a beautiful place, is an open heart. As I said before, the revolution into peace is ultimately a personal one. please understand

 

[Narz]

The made some sense there nat.

However I'd say the word "selfless" might turn off some people (it does me). I think when people realize that by serving others there are ultimately serving themselves their lives as well as the lives of all around them will change for the best (creating a ripple effect).

Also, one major breakthru in my life was expanding my definition of service.

I used to think that if I was sitting around on the computer posting or taking a walk listening to music or working at a dull job I was not doing adaquete service but actually I'm expanding my definitinon. Even if I'm just bonding with someone online or walking alone (thinking and expanding myself) or working at something I don't necessarily believe in I can still put myself out there in a way that will influence others (for the better) and the universe at large.

Even while in an argument (usually online, I tend to not argue in real life) I aim to keep in civil and enrich the other person as well as being open myself. I don't cling to my opinion and am open to adjusting it if it proves unproductive. Ultimately I don't necessarily want to conquer my opponent but simply help him incorporate some of what I'm saying into his worldview. Like organisms exchanging DNA I want to combine myself with others (don't take that in a weird way fellas ) to create something greater than either of us had before (coming into the conversation). What makes forums so great is you are not only influencing each other but a mass of viewers as well.

 

[C~G]

Like organisms exchanging DNA I want to combine myself with others (don't take that in a weird way fellas ) to create something greater than either of us had before (coming into the conversation). What makes forums so great is you are not only influencing each other but a mass of viewers as well.

Have you ever thought working in porn-industry?

But what comes to your message in overall.

MissBliss, could you come here once before the clubnight and not always just after.

 

[Narz]

Have you ever thought working in porn-industry?

Not in the industry but I've considered making some amatuer stuff (from love of course).

But what comes to your message in overall.

T'anks.

MissBliss, could you come here once before the clubnight and not always just after.

I wonder how she would reply if someone on the street asked her what time it was.

 

[HawkeyeGS]

I agree completely Narz. While improbable it is not that hard to image it happening. I mean people are entirely self-centered. The reason we go around blowing stuff up and letting that other person starve to death is simply because we believe that it will make our lives better than if we restrain from doing it. If we could convice people that they would be better off if they didn't go around blowing people up then they would do that. It all comes back to the bottom line.

 

[Narz]

I agree completely Narz. While improbable it is not that hard to image it happening. I mean people are entirely self-centered. The reason we go around blowing stuff up and letting that other person starve to death is simply because we believe that it will make our lives better than if we restrain from doing it. If we could convice people that they would be better off if they didn't go around blowing people up then they would do that. It all comes back to the bottom line.

Right, that's the key, IMO. Forget trying to appeal to people's sense of morality or spirtuality (after all religion, the number one excuse behind war, is supposed to be about morality and spirtuality ). Appeal to their self-interest (make them realize that their enemy and them are in fact one). And of course also always remember that people do have a innate desire to feel as if they are serving and connected with their fellow man (if we did not have that instinct we never would have survived as a species).

 

[Miss Bliss]

Shalom C~G, what does your signature quote mean to you? Love to hear about it...

Q: What time is it?
A: What time do you want it to be?

 

[Miss Bliss]

I see much of myself in your post #33 Narz! Clear lucid points! Loving the DNA combining/sharing! Nice One!

 

[C~G]

Shalom C~G, what does your signature quote mean to you? Love to hear about it...

I said about my sig here:
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showpost.php?p=4218063&postcount=140
Here's more:
I suggest reading Joseph Campbell and psychologist Rollo May's The Cry for Myth.

My vision is that our lives are filled with narrations, our own invented stories which make our personalities. We are our dreams, hopes, fears, memories etc. We share some of them together which make us feel we belong together somehow but each of us have our own patterns of these things which like already said make us who we really are. After all they are just simulations run by our brains in order to find meaning for our lives and cope with our enviroment. But each of us has special combination of those can be called our "spirit".