Beta Testers Needed!

Dancing Hoskuld · Nov 27, 2009

Just had my first CTD with the newest version.

Code:

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "BugEventManager", line 357, in _handleDefaultEvent
  File "RevEvents", line 128, in onEndGameTurn
  File "RevEvents", line 1118, in checkForAssimilation
NameError: global name 'PyPopup' is not defined

One unexpected effect of the don't show units/buildings that you can't build here is that it breaks the Prophet action buttons, more than RoM does

. The buttons are supposed to tell you which Holy Shrines have not been built as well as if you can build them in this city. I.E. My mod to make them work after RoM made them not work can't work anymore.

NBAfan · Nov 27, 2009

Afforess, do the audio issues you are having just affect the Mega Pack?

Ariminio · Nov 27, 2009

I'm getting a reoccuring CTD early in the game, cant continue no matter what I do, heres the content of the PythonErr2.log file. In the attachment is the autosave.
(Its my first time reporting for a beta test, so im not sure what to copy and post.)

Spoiler :

szemek77 · Nov 27, 2009

Is the final release of New Dawn a matter of days, or weeks? No hurry though, just want to know if I should start another game, or better wait?

Afforess · Nov 27, 2009

Dancing Hoskuld said:
Just had my first CTD with the newest version.

Code:

Traceback (most recent call last): File "BugEventManager", line 357, in _handleDefaultEvent File "RevEvents", line 128, in onEndGameTurn File "RevEvents", line 1118, in checkForAssimilation NameError: global name 'PyPopup' is not defined

One unexpected effect of the don't show units/buildings that you can't build here is that it breaks the Prophet action buttons, more than RoM does. The buttons are supposed to tell you which Holy Shrines have not been built as well as if you can build them in this city. I.E. My mod to make them work after RoM made them not work can't work anymore.

What do you mean by break? Wouldn't the button still show up if the prophet was over top of the holy city?

Also, it's just a player option, albeit, a very simple one from coding perspective. It's fairly easy to toggle on/off...

Thanks for the logs though... that looks like a BUG error.

NBAfan said:
Afforess, do the audio issues you are having just affect the Mega Pack?

Yes.

Ariminio said:
I'm getting a reoccuring CTD early in the game, cant continue no matter what I do, heres the content of the PythonErr2.log file. In the attachment is the autosave.
(Its my first time reporting for a beta test, so im not sure what to copy and post.)

Spoiler :

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sys.modules = {'zipimport': <module 'zipimport' (built-in)>, 'signal': <module 'signal' (built-in)>, '__builtin__': <module '__builtin__' (built-in)>, 'sys': <module 'sys' (built-in)>, '__main__': <module '__main__' (built-in)>, 'exceptions': <module 'exceptions' (built-in)>, 'CvPythonExtensions': <module 'CvPythonExtensions' (built-in)>}

sys.builtin_module_names = ('CvPythonExtensions', '__builtin__', '__main__', '_bisect', '_codecs', '_codecs_cn', '_codecs_hk', '_codecs_iso2022', '_codecs_jp', '_codecs_kr', '_codecs_tw', '_csv', '_heapq', '_hotshot', '_locale', '_multibytecodec', '_random', '_sre', '_subprocess', '_symtable', '_weakref', '_winreg', 'array', 'audioop', 'binascii', 'cPickle', 'cStringIO', 'cmath', 'collections', 'datetime', 'errno', 'exceptions', 'gc', 'imageop', 'imp', 'itertools', 'marshal', 'math', 'md5', 'mmap', 'msvcrt', 'nt', 'operator', 'parser', 'regex', 'rgbimg', 'sha', 'signal', 'strop', 'struct', 'sys', 'thread', 'time', 'xxsubtype', 'zipimport')
load_module CvEventInterface
load_module BugEventManager
load_module CvEventManager
load_module CvUtil
load_module traceback
load_module PyHelpers
load_module CvScreensInterface
load_module CvMainInterface
load_module ScreenInput
load_module CvScreenEnums
load_module time
load_module BugDll
load_module BugUtil
load_module ColorUtil
load_module RevInqUtilities
load_module BugCore
load_module BugOptions
load_module BugConfig
load_module BugInit
load_module BugPath
load_module BugConfigTracker
load_module BugTypes
load_module xmllib
..\WARLORDS\ASSETS\PYTHON\SYSTEM\xmllib.py:9: DeprecationWarning: The xmllib module is obsolete. Use xml.sax instead.
09:33:38 DEBUG: BugConfig - registering xml handler BugConfig.RootHandler
09:33:38 DEBUG: BugConfig - registering bug handler BugConfig.BugHandler
09:33:38 DEBUG: BugConfig - registering load handler BugConfig.LoadHandler
09:33:38 DEBUG: BugConfig - registering config handler BugConfig.ConfigHandler
09:33:38 DEBUG: BugConfig - registering arg handler BugConfig.ArgHandler
load_module configobj
load_module __future__
load_module codecs
load_module validate
validate import failed
load_module pickle
load_module RevInquisitor
load_module cPickle
load_module RevInquisition
load_module RevInstances
load_module RevDCM
load_module Popup
09:33:38 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod RevDCM
load_module CvConfigParser
load_module ConfigParser
load_module CvPath
load_module _winreg
load_module CvModName
os.getcwd(): C:\Spiele\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword
os.getcwd(): C:\Spiele\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword
CvPath.assetsPath
[u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Assets', u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\CustomAssets', "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Assets", "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Assets"]
filenames
[u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Addons.ini', u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\Addons.ini', "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Addons.ini", "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Addons.ini"]
CvPath.assetsPath
[u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Assets', u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\CustomAssets', "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Assets", "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Assets"]
filenames
[u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Revolution.ini', u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\Revolution.ini', "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Revolution.ini", "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Revolution.ini"]
load_module CityUtil
09:33:38 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod NJAGC
09:33:38 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Scores
09:33:38 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod MainInterface
09:33:38 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod CityScreen
load_module ReligionUtil
load_module FontUtil
load_module MonkeyTools
load_module AStarTools
09:33:38 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod PLE
load_module UnitUtil
load_module PlayerUtil
load_module TradeUtil
load_module DiplomacyUtil
load_module AttitudeUtil
load_module GameUtil
load_module Scoreboard
load_module DealUtil
load_module ReminderEventManager
load_module SdToolKit
load_module autolog
09:33:38 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Autolog
09:33:38 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Reminder
load_module GGUtil
load_module GPUtil
load_module ProgressBarUtil
load_module RawYields
load_module CvTechChooser
load_module TechPrefs
09:33:38 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod Advisors
load_module CvForeignAdvisor
load_module math
load_module CvExoticForeignAdvisor
load_module IconGrid_BUG
load_module DomPyHelpers
load_module TechTree
load_module FavoriteCivicDetector
load_module CvReligionScreen
load_module CvCorporationScreen
load_module CvCivicsScreen
load_module CvVictoryScreen
load_module TechUtil
load_module CvEspionageAdvisor
09:33:39 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod BetterEspionage
load_module CvOptionsScreen
load_module CvReplayScreen
load_module CvHallOfFameScreen
load_module CvDanQuayle
load_module CvGameUtils
load_module CvUnVictoryScreen
load_module CvDawnOfMan
load_module CvTechSplashScreen
load_module CvTopCivs
load_module random
load_module CvInfoScreen
load_module CvIntroMovieScreen
load_module CvVictoryMovieScreen
load_module CvWonderMovieScreen
load_module CvEraMovieScreen
load_module CvSpaceShipScreen
load_module SevoScreenEnums
load_module CvWorldBuilderScreen
load_module CvWorldBuilderDiplomacyScreen
load_module CvDebugTools
load_module CvDebugInfoScreen
load_module CvMapGeneratorUtil
load_module CvGFCScreen
load_module CvPopupInterface
load_module CvScreenUtilsInterface
load_module CvOverlayScreenUtils
load_module CvDotMapOverlayScreen
load_module CvStrategyOverlay
load_module SdToolkit
09:33:39 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod StrategyOverlay
load_module CvScreenUtils
load_module InputUtil
09:33:39 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod CustDomAdv
09:33:39 INFO : BugCore - creating uninitialized mod TechWindow
init-ing world builder screen
load_module CvWBPopups
load_module CvCameraControls
load_module CvAdvisorUtils
load_module RevolutionInit
load_module RevDefs
load_module RevEvents
load_module RevData
load_module SdToolKitCustom
load_module RevUtils
load_module RevCivicsUtils
load_module RevTraitsUtils
load_module BarbarianCiv
load_module AIAutoPlay
load_module ChangePlayer
load_module Revolution
load_module RebelTypes
load_module TextUtils
load_module Tester
load_module TechDiffusion
load_module StartAsMinors
load_module DynamicCivNames
load_module LeaderCivNames
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'PreGameStart'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'BeginActivePlayerTurn'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'SwitchHotSeatPlayer'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'LanguageChanged'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'ResolutionChanged'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'PythonReloaded'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'unitUpgraded'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'unitCaptured'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'combatWithdrawal'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'combatRetreat'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'combatLogCollateral'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'combatLogFlanking'
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugEventManager - adding event 'playerRevolution'
PY:Initializing Revolution Mod
CvPath.assetsPath
[u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Assets', u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\CustomAssets', "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Assets", "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Assets"]
filenames
[u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Revolution.ini', u'C:\\Dokumente und Einstellungen\\Armin\\Eigene Dateien\\My Games\\Beyond the Sword\\Revolution.ini', "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Mods\\Rise of Mankind\\Revolution.ini", "C:\\Spiele\\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\\Beyond the Sword\\Revolution.ini"]
09:33:40 DEBUG: BugInit - global context not ready
PY:OnInit
load_module CvAppInterface

The logs are clean, would you mind posting a list of all the modmod's you installed.

szemek77 said:
Is the final release of New Dawn a matter of days, or weeks? No hurry though, just want to know if I should start another game, or better wait?

One week, or 7 days, whatever you prefer.

Ariminio · Nov 27, 2009

I have only this beta modmod installed. I deleted the old rise of mankind folder, then installed 2.80, then rom2.80hotfix3 and then this beta modmod, nothing else. So there is nothing that explains this crash?
I'm reluctant to trying another round, because a CTD you cannot get past is no fun. :cry:

Afforess · Nov 27, 2009

Ariminio said:
I have only this beta modmod installed. I deleted the old rise of mankind folder, then installed 2.80, then rom2.80hotfix3 and then this beta modmod, nothing else. So there is nothing that explains this crash?
I'm reluctant to trying another round, because a CTD you cannot get past is no fun.

No... You didn't understand me. When you installed A New Dawn, what components did you select when you ran the installer?

RobO · Nov 27, 2009

I like to play with Revolutions on, but in the last game it went out of hand. I use Aforess latest beta (1.50b4) - but only parts of it. Here is the list:
Military Civics
Beautification project
Civic Flavors
Ice breaker
Ideology Civics
Meteorology
Mountains
Realistic Diplomacy
Seafaring
Multiple production
War Prizes
Espionage Process
Reforestation
Sea Tunnels
Terraforming
Lead from behind
Education
Fixed Borders
NIMBY
Surround and Destroy
No Storms
Advanced Diplomacy
Balanced Civics

I noticed with this setup that there was quite a lot of revolutions in the AI civs in this game and the previous attempt (same setup). In the latest my cities started revolting, even though they were reasonably close and linked with paths as well as culturally. Three of the four even had the state religion, yet two of them wanted to revolt.

This was not the case with beta2 and earlier installs. Something made the cities more belligerent. I do not play with Barbarian Civs, nor with barb cities at start. The latest was on Prince, the one before that on Monarch.

On top of this, in my latest game, a bunch of American units appeared out of nowhere as a response to the revolting (

) sentiment in my cities. There were at least two stacks, including a settler in one. It didn't feel right - there were more units than I could build in a fair amount of time, and they appeared out of nowhere.

I suspect it has to do with the modmod. But I'd also like to know what the simplest way to turn down revolution is. There is a Revolutions.ini in C:\Spil\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind - I guess that's the place to go. It has a number of parameters, and these look like they woudl do the trick:

Code:

; Adjust rate of rev index accumulation, additional options for human (offset adds that value to each city per turn, keep it small)
IndexModifier = 0.8
IndexOffset = 0
HumanIndexModifier = 1.0
HumanIndexOffset = 0

That is reducing the two IndexModifier values. If so, how much effect will a reduction have? Or do I need to change another parameter?

Btw: I did a few xml tweaks myself, but nothing that should affect this: More wonders in cities, larger min distance btw civs and a small change on the Slavery civic.

Dancing Hoskuld · Nov 27, 2009

Afforess said:
What do you mean by break? Wouldn't the button still show up if the prophet was over top of the holy city?

Yes, but that is not the point. In standard Civ and BtS when a prophet is active they have action buttons showing all the unbuilt holy shrines. This acts as a reminder to the player for ant holy shrines s/he may be able to build. In RoM holy shrines stopped being great wonders so this functionallity was lost since the logic behind the showing of the action buttons now showed all holy shrines built of not built except those built in the city the prophet was in. My mod put the holy shrines back to being great wonders so that the prophet action buttons worked again. Your mod turns it off again

I think the problem is that the buttons are both "build" and "action" buttons. If they were just the latter I expect that your mod would not affect them. It is just a pain for those of us who like to get all the religions, even when playing with revolutions.

NBAfan · Nov 27, 2009

I have something really strange, last few days with 1.51beta2, Rom would start up fine. Now I am getting a bunch of XML errors like these, even though I did not change anything. :confused:

Ariminio · Nov 27, 2009

Afforess said:
No... You didn't understand me. When you installed A New Dawn, what components did you select when you ran the installer?

Oh, is there anyway to check this now? I don't really remember it, but I think I left it mostly on the default setting. May have turned off one or maybe two.

NBAfan · Nov 27, 2009

Ariminio said:
Oh, is there anyway to check this now? I don't really remember it, but I think I left it mostly on the default setting. May have turned off one or maybe two.

Tell us what folders are in here: C:\Program Files\Firaxis Games\Sid Meier's Civilization 4\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind\Assets\Modules\Afforess

NBAfan · Nov 27, 2009

Hmm... Reinstalling Rom seems to have fixed my problem. :crazyeye:

Afforess, 1.51beta2 does include Hotfix3 right?

Afforess · Nov 27, 2009

RobO said:
I like to play with Revolutions on, but in the last game it went out of hand. I use Aforess latest beta (1.50b4) - but only parts of it. Here is the list:
Military Civics
Beautification project
Civic Flavors
Ice breaker
Ideology Civics
Meteorology
Mountains
Realistic Diplomacy
Seafaring
Multiple production
War Prizes
Espionage Process
Reforestation
Sea Tunnels
Terraforming
Lead from behind
Education
Fixed Borders
NIMBY
Surround and Destroy
No Storms
Advanced Diplomacy
Balanced Civics

I noticed with this setup that there was quite a lot of revolutions in the AI civs in this game and the previous attempt (same setup). In the latest my cities started revolting, even though they were reasonably close and linked with paths as well as culturally. Three of the four even had the state religion, yet two of them wanted to revolt.

This was not the case with beta2 and earlier installs. Something made the cities more belligerent. I do not play with Barbarian Civs, nor with barb cities at start. The latest was on Prince, the one before that on Monarch.

On top of this, in my latest game, a bunch of American units appeared out of nowhere as a response to the revolting ( ) sentiment in my cities. There were at least two stacks, including a settler in one. It didn't feel right - there were more units than I could build in a fair amount of time, and they appeared out of nowhere.

I suspect it has to do with the modmod. But I'd also like to know what the simplest way to turn down revolution is. There is a Revolutions.ini in C:\Spil\Sid Meier's Civilization 4 Complete\Beyond the Sword\Mods\Rise of Mankind - I guess that's the place to go. It has a number of parameters, and these look like they woudl do the trick:

Code:

; Adjust rate of rev index accumulation, additional options for human (offset adds that value to each city per turn, keep it small) IndexModifier = 0.8 IndexOffset = 0 HumanIndexModifier = 1.0 HumanIndexOffset = 0

That is reducing the two IndexModifier values. If so, how much effect will a reduction have? Or do I need to change another parameter?

Btw: I did a few xml tweaks myself, but nothing that should affect this: More wonders in cities, larger min distance btw civs and a small change on the Slavery civic.

No... You did read the OP, right? Revolutions scales with difficulty now. Noble difficulty is standard revolutions, easier than that is less revolutions, harder than noble is harder. You can find the changes in Afforess/Required/CIV4HandicapInfo

It's supposed to make the game easier for newbies and harder for us veterans. I am coping fine though on Monarch difficulty ATM, but I was forced to use the pacifism civic

crazyeye

to keep my cities in line.

Dancing Hoskuld said:
Yes, but that is not the point. In standard Civ and BtS when a prophet is active they have action buttons showing all the unbuilt holy shrines. This acts as a reminder to the player for ant holy shrines s/he may be able to build. In RoM holy shrines stopped being great wonders so this functionallity was lost since the logic behind the showing of the action buttons now showed all holy shrines built of not built except those built in the city the prophet was in. My mod put the holy shrines back to being great wonders so that the prophet action buttons worked again. Your mod turns it off again I think the problem is that the buttons are both "build" and "action" buttons. If they were just the latter I expect that your mod would not affect them. It is just a pain for those of us who like to get all the religions, even when playing with revolutions.

Okay, sure. Just untoggle the option then. No one says you have to use it.

NBAfan said:
I have something really strange, last few days with 1.51beta2, Rom would start up fine. Now I am getting a bunch of XML errors like these, even though I did not change anything.

Did you edit the files for RoM?

Ariminio said:
Oh, is there anyway to check this now? I don't really remember it, but I think I left it mostly on the default setting. May have turned off one or maybe two.

Okay. I will have it install a component log to make this easier in the future.

NBAfan said:
Hmm... Reinstalling Rom seems to have fixed my problem.

Afforess, 1.51beta2 does include Hotfix3 right?

Not completely, but Beta4 does.

Dancing Hoskuld · Nov 27, 2009

No, its too useful. What I am is write a proper mod for prophet action buttons which works for RoM only. Now where did I put that action button tutorial

NBAfan · Nov 27, 2009

Afforess, I did not edit any files. It is working now though.

strategyonly · Nov 27, 2009

Had this, i dont know if its any of your stuff or not?

Afforess · Nov 27, 2009

strategyonly said:
Had this, i dont know if its any of your stuff or not?

For the 100th time, EVERYONE, please read the OP before posting.

civ_king · Nov 27, 2009

could you make a feature that unlimits Wonders? would make bug reporting easier

Afforess · Nov 27, 2009

civ_king said:
could you make a feature that unlimits wonders? Would make bug reporting easier

for the 101st time! Read the op!

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