Bias in the Media redux

[CartesianFart]

You mean how they keep insisting if we leave it will be a bloodbath?

I think that argument is something that many politicians (either the Senate or the House) moderately take on regarding some particular viewpoint on the so-called "exit-strategy",whether if they are democrats or republican.

You mean how they do everythign they can to demonize Iran?

I find this silly for even to response to.Saying demonizing Iran is not
Synonomous to criticizing Iran foreign policy in the MiddleEast or their remaining to be suspicious of their Nuclear Weapons program.

I call B.S. the media is pro-government, because government is where they get the news from.

Sometimes the media get news from other governments.Are you saying that our media in the US is pro-other governments as well?

Iraq is a hell-hole, and only the delusional think it's just a smoke and mirrors media conspiracy.

If any delusion is made,I would not resort to definitely say that it is a conspiracy of the media alone but a war of public opinion that is poorly represented by the media against the government who distort events that is in their right mind only protecting the values of our country against people of other nations that are competing for to usurp our role in foreign affairs.

 

[searcheagle]

What is the media left leaning in comparison to?

The American People.

 

[mrt144]

The American People.

Im sure you speak for the american people as a whole. Perhaps I am less American because I listen to NPR? or am I more American because I read the WSJ?

 

[C~G]

The American People.

You mean that american people that didn't choose left leaning senate and congress?

 

[.Shane.]

The difference being accountants are not responsible for giving or expressing a viewpoint to the general populace. Their influence is basically nil as compared to that of journalists.

I could pick a few other vocations where this would matter... Say the Armed Forces, or companies that make voting machines.

Heh, do you think Bill O leaves his bias at the door and are you mature enough to give him a fair shake? Somehow I dont think so.

I'm surprised you're playing this game with me. We both know he's not a journalist or a reporter.

But again I ask....is this hard evidence of real bias in the media?

I thought it was an interesting read. And, I can see how someone would want to take it this way. But the fact that this is the media reporting on itself also shows a disinclination toward bias.

Could we get a list of all the donations of the heads of the corporate entities that own the various media outlets. They are the boss ultimately and if you want to keep your job you must please the boss. And if anything being a news professional and having an innate political bias (as everyone does) will actually make you bend over backwards to favor the other side so as not to taint you work.

Exactly.

So, MobBoss, can you find out similar stats for those who run these news companies? Somehow I bet if you did find it you wouldn't post it because it wouldn't suit your viewpoint.

 

[JollyRoger]

Im sure you speak for the american people as a whole. Perhaps I am less American because I listen to NPR? or am I more American because I read the WSJ?

You are more American if you read the WSJ editorial page, less American if you read the rest of the WSJ.

 

[Phlegmak]

Fair and balanced Fox.

Hey, even Chaser noticed how fair and banaced they are.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SMzvDuo_kUk

 

[Neomega]

I find this silly for even to response to.Saying demonizing Iran is not
Synonomous to criticizing Iran foreign policy in the MiddleEast or their remaining to be suspicious of their Nuclear Weapons program.

Who in the media is saying Iran has a right to nuclear weapons?
Who in the media is asking if it is any of America's business?

The debate itself is skewed towards the government. The above questions are not asked, instead, the american people are fed "should we bomb now or later".

From the right, Mr. John Pundit says now, and from the left, Mr. Rex You-enn says later, with UN approval.

This is not a liberal media, it is a government mouthpiece, and nothing more. This is not an honest debate, it's propaganda.

 

[MobBoss]

I'm surprised you're playing this game with me. We both know he's not a journalist or a reporter.

He is still part of the media, and in fact, the story references someone who works on his show as a republican donator. One of the very few.

So, MobBoss, can you find out similar stats for those who run these news companies? Somehow I bet if you did find it you wouldn't post it because it wouldn't suit your viewpoint.

Just commenting on a story I saw...as I am not an investigative reporter, I probably will not be searching for similiar stats among the Soros' or Murdochs of the world, sorry.

Are you in the habit of posting links/stories that dont suit your viewpoint? If not, then fie on you and your comment.

 

[GinandTonic]

And most accountants probably donate to the Republicans, but I think they're professional enough to do my books w/out screwing me if I don't agree with them.

I think its in the nature of the job that people who are in journalism are predominantly left-leaning. Those are the types of personalities that such a job attracts. The question is, are they professional enough to leave their bias at the door? The second question is, are we mature enough to give them a fair shake and leave our assumptions/prejudices at the door as well?

Most accountants are probably right-leaning because they understand money. Most journalists and politics and international relations professors are left leaning because they understand politics and international relations.

If the experts on an area all agree we have to at least entertain the possibility they are correct.

 

[.Shane.]

He is still part of the media, and in fact, the story references someone who works on his show as a republican donator. One of the very few.

Oh, lord, by this definition the "Entertainment Tonight" and "Monday Night Football" crews fits and, in the end, we're not talking about anything relevant.

Just commenting on a story I saw...as I am not an investigative reporter, I probably will not be searching for similiar stats among the Soros' or Murdochs of the world, sorry.

No, but if it fell in your lap, I doubt you'd post it.

Are you in the habit of posting links/stories that dont suit your viewpoint? If not, then fie on you and your comment.

I have before. I've also, at times, posted links to credible sources that may give a fair opposing viewpoint.

side-note: WTH is "fie"? Is that like "phooey"?

 

[Phlegmak]

I think that argument is something that many politicians (either the Senate or the House) moderately take on regarding some particular viewpoint on the so-called "exit-strategy",whether if they are democrats or republican.

I find this silly for even to response to.Saying demonizing Iran is not
Synonomous to criticizing Iran foreign policy in the MiddleEast or their remaining to be suspicious of their Nuclear Weapons program.


Sometimes the media get news from other governments.Are you saying that our media in the US is pro-other governments as well?

If any delusion is made,I would not resort to definitely say that it is a conspiracy of the media alone but a war of public opinion that is poorly represented by the media against the government who distort events that is in their right mind only protecting the values of our country against people of other nations that are competing for to usurp our role in foreign affairs.

Good lord, that's like the most incomprehensible stuff you've ever written. It's important that you write in complete sentences and not your usual runon stuff. Also, proper verb conjugation helps.

Note that I'm not making fun of you, I'm actually trying to advise you that your sentences are generally incomprehensible, and they typically take 5 rereads to begin to make sense of them. This time around, 5 rereads won't help.

Moderator Action: Absolutely uneccessary. Completely fail to address any of the points, and basically trolling. You got two points a few seconds ago - and are close to a ban. Debate the points in a civil manner, or you will find your posting priviledges suspended.
Please read the forum rules: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=422889

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

Interesting. Journalists hear more angles and views than any of us. Their job is to gather information and links, to speak to political figures and many people with opinions on politics. So it might be they have come to an informed judgement on which side to support.

But the comments on those who run the newsstations have merit as well. So anything conclusive about bias in the media can not be drawn from this story.

 

[Phlegmak]

side-note: WTH is "fie"? Is that like "phooey"?

BLAM!

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fie

It basically means "to hell with that."

No, but if it fell in your lap, I doubt you'd post it.

You "doubt" he'd post something that goes against his viewpoints? What the hell is wrong with you? Yer darn tootin' he won't post it!

 

[Atlas14]

To all liberals: Sit down and watch 10 minutes of CBS, CNN, Catie Couric, Matt Louer, Dan Rather or Geraldo and tell me the media isn't liberally biased. The bs methods they use are even biased. I was so pissed having to watch CBS bullcrap at the airport. I was bookless and moneyless, so that was my only "entertainment".

 

[Truronian]

The American People.

How do you know this? Are you a hive mind?

 

[MobBoss]

You "doubt" he'd post something that goes against his viewpoints? What the hell is wrong with you? Yer darn tootin' he won't post it!

Neither does anyone else around here. So big whoopee. The day Phlegmak post a thread about how he was wrong about Bill O and that he now loves the guy is the day I expect armageddon to happen.

 

[JollyRoger]

To all liberals: Sit down and watch 10 minutes of CBS, CNN, Catie Couric, Matt Louer, Dan Rather or Geraldo and tell me the media isn't liberally biased. The bs methods they use are even biased. I was so pissed having to watch CBS bullcrap at the airport. I was bookless and moneyless, so that was my only "entertainment".

I have watched hours of the above sources and many have often given the current administration's talking points without critical evaluation and without presenting the obvious counterpoints. In particular, Ms. Couric, the morning shows, CNN, and Geraldo, of those that you mention.

 

[.Shane.]

To all liberals: Sit down and watch 10 minutes of CBS, CNN, Catie Couric, Matt Louer, Dan Rather or Geraldo and tell me the media isn't liberally biased. The bs methods they use are even biased. I was so pissed having to watch CBS bullcrap at the airport. I was bookless and moneyless, so that was my only "entertainment".

umm... no?

TBH, this is one of my favorite things about the internet, I can pick and choose the news that interests me.

I haven't watched any of these guys in years, other than the odd snippet here and there.

 

[The Yankee]

To all liberals: Sit down and watch 10 minutes of CBS, CNN, Catie Couric, Matt Louer, Dan Rather or Geraldo and tell me the media isn't liberally biased. The bs methods they use are even biased. I was so pissed having to watch CBS bullcrap at the airport. I was bookless and moneyless, so that was my only "entertainment".

Geraldo is only good for the occasional shouting match with Bill O'Reilly.

That said, I think the biggest bias of all is going for the Crossfire factor.