Brave New World's 9 new Civs

[tnick777]

Morocco played a major role with the Barbary Pirates. That could be their UU in that they can raid trade routes.

 

[Louis XXIV]

Not that this makes its inclusion much less likely, but I'm going to assume that's a Caravansary as described in the achievements. It looks exactly like one.

It looks like a Kasbah to me.

 

[Bonci]

Morocco played a major role with the Barbary Pirates. That could be their UU in that they can raid trade routes.

uhm, but then what about the ottoman UA?

 

[Menzies]

I'd hope that they are planning to release a set of DLCs after Brave New World (similar to the DLC after Vanilla), if not a final full expansion. Some extra Civilizations and a couple of scenarios would be great. If we get a final 4 like:

1. Italy
2. Morocco
3. Sioux
4. Vietnam

I'd like to see as DLC (7 as with the first run):

1. Indonesia
2. Hittites
3. Sumeria
4. Charlemagne's Francia / Carolingian Empire / Holy Roman Empire, or whatever label they want to give it
5. Gran Colombia with Bolivar
6. Hungary
7. Timurids

The key ones being Sumeria, Indonesia, Bolivar's Gran Colombia (or otherwise) and Charlemange's Empire, under whatever name they are comfortable with. That would leave us with a nice 50 Civilizations (that sounds utterly ridiculous actually, I like it).

 

[Tinker]

They have denounced DLC in favour of expansions in pretty much every interview they've given though, so don't get your hopes up.

 

[teriaky]

oouuuh man why morroco ?
its majapahit/indonesia its too hard to explore ?
WTH

Indonesia is awesome. I'd really like them to be included. However, don't underestimate the awesomeness of Morocco. They were themselves very powerful and influencial (especially if we consider that they would represent all of the Maghreb). The Almohad and the Almoravid ruled over 2 continents and were the most powerful rulers in Western Europe and possibly Africa*. Morocco also had a lot of cultural and scientific achievement. They have the caracteristic of the major civs, and weren't included only because they were mixed with Arabia.
Don't froget, there is enough place for both Morocco and Indonesia.

*This is the reason why I think the leader of Morocco should be a leader form the medieval time or the early mordern time: this was a time in which Morocco was a major player on the political map. Thats why I think Abd al-Rahman should not be the're leader. He successfully defended his state, he did not expand it. It would be like choosing a leader from the Palaiologan dynasty for Byzantium instead of Justinian, Basil, Constantine... or Theodora.

 

[Loaf Warden]

uhm, but then what about the ottoman UA?

UAs can be changed. See also: France.

Personally, I don't see any reason to give Morocco anything pertaining to the Barbary pirates, which was really more the work of Tunis and Algiers. But it must be admitted that with the near-complete overhaul of France, any objection to a suggestion on the grounds that "x civ already has y unique which makes it redundant" is nullified. We know now that they can and will alter any civ they see fit to alter.

 

[Menzies]

They have denounced DLC in favour of expansions in pretty much every interview they've given though, so don't get your hopes up.

Well, we did basically daemonise it as a community, mostly out of fear that it meant that there wouldn't be expansion packs.

 

[Loaf Warden]

Yeah, what they said was that the fans hated it. They didn't say they hate doing them, they said we hate getting them. Personally, I loved getting new civs as DLC (I remember posting here back in the Civ III days that I'd be happy to get new civs even if it meant I had to buy them individually on the street corner), and if we can convince them that we want more DLC now that we've had a couple of expansions, they could bring it back.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

I'd love a 7-civ run of DLC, because it would bring up the total amount of civs to a perfect 50.

Speaking of Morocco, we know that Carvansary is a Building, not an improvement.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

I like the Morocco idea, and I would like to see it in BNW, but we have to remember just how tenuous the evidence is. The name-drop could have been a misstatement or a bad transcription or an innocent placeholder name. The improvement we take to be a Kasbah is just a building with strong middle-eastern features that looks like pictures of Kasbahs. It could be a thing for a madeover Arabia. All the things that we take as evidence of Morocco could be interpreted differently. Kasbahs aren't even exclusive to Morocco.
To me Morocco has even less evidence than Italy/Venice.

 

[SnowKomodo]

I like the Morocco idea, and I would like to see it in BNW, but we have to remember just how tenuous the evidence is. The name-drop could have been a misstatement or a bad transcription or an innocent placeholder name. The improvement we take to be a Kasbah is just a building with strong middle-eastern features that looks like pictures of Kasbahs. It could be a thing for a madeover Arabia. All the things that we take as evidence of Morocco could be interpreted differently. Kasbahs aren't even exclusive to Morocco.
To me Morocco has even less evidence than Italy/Venice.

Let's pretend that name-drop was a mistake. Does anybody know if the kasbah theory could fall to another nearby or even neighboring civ with a realistic shot at making it?

 

[otaman1]

If they are releasing DLC packs in-between Expansions, I would like to see the following civs in those DLCs:

- Armenia
- Bulgaria
- Hittites
- Indonesia (if it's not in BNW already)
- Kongo
- Sumeria
- Swahili

 

[SnowKomodo]

To be honest I'd love to see Australia and Canada as a DLC (especially Canada). I've heard the arguments against it but I don't really care - got a lot of buds from these two countries so I'm swayed for it

 

[askia53]

Here are 4 civs I would like to see:
1. Mughals
2. Oman (unlikely, but they would go great with the new trade system.)
3. Italy
4. Morocco

Some other Civs that I think would be interesting are;
Mali
Yugoslavia
Belgium
Mexico
Kongo
Hungary
Tibet

 

[phaethon16]

I'd rather have a new expansion then DLC, but my top 7 choices would be
1) Hungary (Magyar power!)
2) Argentina under Eva Peron
3) Mughals under Akbar
4) Hitittes
5) Kongo under Nzinga
6) Indonesia (or Vietnam)
7) Canada (maybe)
I also think an Italian specific scenario with different cs being playable as civs would be cool.

 

[TheMarshmallowBear]

To be honest I'd love to see Australia and Canada as a DLC (especially Canada). I've heard the arguments against it but I don't really care - got a lot of buds from these two countries so I'm swayed for it

If for some reason they would focus on the end game in a 3rd expansion pack, and would add 7 more civs (with a focus on revamping Science and Domination victories) then I wouldn't mind seeing more modern nations in, including Canada and Australia.

 

[Eagle Pursuit]

Let's pretend that name-drop was a mistake. Does anybody know if the kasbah theory could fall to another nearby or even neighboring civ with a realistic shot at making it?

I can't really which is why I postulate a madeover Arabia as the alternative theory for the "kasbah".

 

[otaman1]

Let's pretend that name-drop was a mistake. Does anybody know if the kasbah theory could fall to another nearby or even neighboring civ with a realistic shot at making it?

Umm ... Algeria. That's all I can think of. It might be a UI for Arabia or Morocco.

 

[tranger66]

Well, we did basically daemonise it as a community, mostly out of fear that it meant that there wouldn't be expansion packs.

I'm always worried if a game I like talks about doing DLC but I think Civ handled it well by giving us completely new content for a reasonable price. I just didn't want them to offload major parts of the game to sell back in a few months.