Well I'm happy to see Morocco and Indonesia in the game and I'm ready to concede that Hungary will not be in but I'm more than disappointed and upset about it, more on that later. First... Venice is not really a bad choice but Hungary should have gotten the first choice. Morocco is a good choice, but whether or not its contributions exceed that of Hungary's depend on whether or not you include al-Andalus in the definition. I'm against it only because this was a zero sum game and the remaining European slot should have gone to Hungary. I'll elaborate on that more at some point in a thread where it will be on topic and post a link here. I don't want to sidetrack this thread.