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Breeland Mafia Game Thread

Discussion in 'Mafia/NOTW' started by spaceman98, Jun 15, 2016.

  1. Winston Hughes

    Winston Hughes Wrathful Warlock Retired Moderator

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    Thing is, KM, rereading you it all seems to fit. You stuck with your vote on Double A even once it became clear that Zack was a better choice if we were going to lynch an orc. You expressed suspicion of Lassie, but it was soft, and you kept pushing for others to be lynched instead.

    Also, and perhaps more importantly, the graverobber bit answers how the cult aren't totally outgunned here. If you had waited and taken Kennigit's ability, you'd have been in a very strong position.

    If you have been framed here, I'm afraid you're the perfect patsy.
     
  2. choxorn

    choxorn Watermelon Headcrab

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    That is... actually worryingly plausible. What if the Gondorians and Orcs can be converted? That would explain how we haven't seen any other Cultists yet and why Double A made such odd kill choices or why Al's been acting so weird. It might just be a tinfoil theory, but I can't really disregard it completely.

    For now, Unvote: Autolycus, you're probably not the cult leader. Or maybe you are.

    Gah. This is... weird.
     
  3. Al Sipsclar

    Al Sipsclar Prince

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    Of course I didn't. How did you think it would go? "Hey, AA, I know you want to kill me, and have a reason and ability to do so. To make it easier for you, here's the name of a nice person who's protecting me every night."

    The problem is that atheotes was not even mentioned as a potential target. So it's all on you and Mat.
     
  4. Mat93

    Mat93 Emperor

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    It is possible, however I think we can agree that the cult leader cannot be Orc/Gondor. And from Lassie's role PM, with the inheriting ability explicitly stated, it follows that once Lassie and the cult leader are dead, the cult can no longer convert.

    I think we can take both those things as facts, regardless of possible Orc/Gondor conversions.

    Lack of information -> No reason not to kill him.

    Information (correct or otherwise) about other people -> Reason not to kill them, as they can slip up. I.e. Lassie/KingMorgan.

    Therefore legitimate target, right?


    If there is a confirmed vig around, and you don't tell them anything, how can you complain when you are killed? I would point out you have told us someone has claimed to you, and tested it, and not confirmed doctor or otherwise, and did AA kill them? Its really on you, expecting us to double check everything with you, when you are intentionally withholding information. Not really going to work with coordination there, is it?
     
  5. Double A

    Double A ♫We got the guillotine♫

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    Why didn't you just lie?
     
  6. Al Sipsclar

    Al Sipsclar Prince

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    This skill I have yet to master, yeah. That's why I'm here with you, guys.
     
  7. JohannaK

    JohannaK Heroically Clueless

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    The KingMorgan the! (in German, Die KingMorgan Die!)
     
  8. spaceman98

    spaceman98 Plotting something

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    King Morgan: 6 (AA, Mat, Al Sipsclar, Winston, Auto, JoannahK)
    Al Sips: 1 (King Morgan)
    Not Voting: Choxorn
     
  9. spaceman98

    spaceman98 Plotting something

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    How kind of you guys to not even make me create a new tally :love:
    votes locked
     
  10. spaceman98

    spaceman98 Plotting something

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    King Morgan, Iarwain Ben-adar, oldest and fatherless, lord of the Old Forest. Known to the only four hobbits who had met him and lived as the jolly Tom Bombadil. But of course there was more to his story. The folk of Bree and the Shire saw the Old Forest as a place of mystery and fear, not as one inhabited by a jolly fat man who liked to sing. Though that last detail is correct. As he walked he sang, the primordial song of the old forest, the last song of Tom Bombadil.


    Link to video.

    (credits to video go to Over The Garden Wall, which has nothing to do with LOTR but is amazing and you all should watch it)

    For far too long the forest had been cut down. By the pastoral hobbits of the shire, by the industrious orcs of Angmar and Isengard, by the proud men of Gondor and Numenor. It didn't matter, they all were enemies of the Old Forest. Bombadil remembered the first raindrop and the first acorn. He knew the dark under the stars when it was fearless. He knew the great forest and was master of wood, water and hill. He had seen Morgoth, the Valar and their followers sully his rightful domain, burn his trees, drain his rivers and kill his animals. No more. Sauron was gone, Gandalf had sailed into the west. Now, he thought, was his time, and it started here.

    But there was a problem. The townsfolk had found him before he was ready. Him, and his sole current disciple, Mat93 Bill Ferney, whose ever-shifting allegiances had in the end, it seems, brought him onto the losing side.

    Torches and axes are good for a great many things, and clearing the land of forest is one of them. Thus, the townsfolk of bree cleared the land of the cultists within their midst.

    King Morgan was:

    Spoiler King Morgan :


    Mat was

    Spoiler Mat :
    but actually:



    The Cult of Tom Bombadil Has Been Eliminated. All its leaders are dead and it has no capacity to kill, thus remaining cultists commit suicide.

    The townsfolk of Bree gather. All threats are eliminated. The Breeland Townies Have Won!

    But there is still disagreement within their midst. Agents of Gondor and Mount Gundabad still vie for the village's loyalty.

    To the surviving non-town factions, you have a choice:

    1: Pull out now and accept a draw for both of you (your outcome will be listed as Draw, you will be listed as Surviving the game)

    2: Enter a "Civil War" phase in which you will be given the ability to "convert" townies and fight for total victory or total defeat.

    Townies don't worry, your objective is fulfilled and either way you have won and if your alive right now will be counted as "surviving". This just gives you a way to participate in the joy of the two neutral factions fighting it out should they choose to (and win twice in one game :p ).

    So, Evening of Day 6:

    Non-townie factions submit your votes to me in your respective QTs. A majority of both factions must vote for option 1 for peace to prevail. If a majority of one or both factions vote for option 2, then the game will enter Civil War. No night actions are preformed at this time.

    You have [TIMER=7/5/2016 12:20 AM PDT; Votes are Closed][/TIMER] to submit your votes. Only votes in your official QTs count. PMed votes, votes in player created QTs or votes in thread do not.

    So Give Peace a Chance (option 1) or Civil War (option 2)?

    Player List:

    Alive:

    2: JohannahK
    3: Winston Hughes
    7: Double A
    8: Autolycus
    12: Al Sipsclar
    16: choxorn

    Passed into the Halls of Mandos:
    5: Takhisis (Bob, a Breeland Townie)
    13: Jarrema (Barliman Butterbur, a Breeland Townie)
    9: Kennigit, King Aragorn Elessar II, a member of the Gondorian Delegation
    4: Zack, Uruk-Hai, loyal to Mount Gundabad
    1: DuffKilligan (Lily Appledore, a Breeland townie)
    10: atheotes (Polly Leafcutter,a Breeland townie)
    6: Lassie (Goldberry, loyal to the Cult of Tom Bombadil)
    15: BSmith1068 (Man of Bree, loyal to the town of Bree)
    11: KingMorgan (Tom Bombadil of the Cult of Tom Bombadil)
    14: Mat93 (Bill Ferney of the Cult of Tom Bombadil)
     
  11. Double A

    Double A ♫We got the guillotine♫

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  12. spaceman98

    spaceman98 Plotting something

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    votes closed
     
  13. spaceman98

    spaceman98 Plotting something

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    Gondor:
    Option 1: Autolycus, Al Sipsclar
    Not Voting:

    Gundabad:
    Option 1: Double A

    Peace has prevailed!

    Congratulations to the Breeland Townies for a hard-earned victory

    Gondor and Gundabad have drawn and return home with their pride and lives intact, though objectives not quite attained.

    The Cult of Tom Bombadil has been defeated.

    I am overwhelmed with other commitments right now, so proper post-game (Role PMs, night actions and a description of my thoughts behind the setup) to come tomorrow (or the day after tomorrow depending on how hectic things are for me then). Thank you all for playing! I hope this game was as fun to play as it was to host. If not, feel free to criticize any aspects of the setup. Constructive criticism is well taken.

    Game is over. All including the dead may now post
     
  14. choxorn

    choxorn Watermelon Headcrab

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    And here, in my not voting for KingMorgan, I show that for all the times that my gut feelings and doubts have been onto something, there are at least as many times where they lead to me starring in the hit series "Now that's what I call being completely wrong about Mafia."
     
  15. JohannaK

    JohannaK Heroically Clueless

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    Yaaay!
     
  16. Winston Hughes

    Winston Hughes Wrathful Warlock Retired Moderator

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    From a vanilla town perspective, that was all very confusing indeed.

    Well done to whoever deserves it, and thanks to spaceman for an entertaining ride. :goodjob:
     
  17. Autolycus

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    I think the full role reveals on death pushed this in favour of the outcome seen here. It gave town confidence in the pro-town(ish) alignment of the neutral squads, so once both lost someone they were a major weight towards town victory, because they formed the core for a network. I'd have to know how many/which of us (Gondor and Orcs) were convertible to be sure. Ironically, I think the cult might have stood a (small) chance if they'd been allowed to keep playing after KM's death, because the "Orcs" might have wiped everyone out, and normally scum win a tie, letting mat beat Double A in the end game.
     
  18. Autolycus

    Autolycus Emperor

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    I'll be curious to see who all was convertible and when mat was flipped.
     
  19. Autolycus

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  20. Double A

    Double A ♫We got the guillotine♫

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    yeah but I had a night kill and scum don't always win ties if the town can still NK
     

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