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[NFP] Byzantium First Look

Discussion in 'Civ6 - General Discussions' started by bite, Sep 17, 2020.

  1. Eagle Pursuit

    Eagle Pursuit Scir-Gerefa

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    Basil's agenda is Divine Guardian: Likes civs following the same religion.

    per Ed Beach on Twitter
     
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  2. Kupe Navigator

    Kupe Navigator Prince

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    just to let you know Basil II wasn't much for luxuries. It was said that during most of his life he wore nothing but a military outfit. He was so into the military that he cared little for anything other than military-like getting married and cultural activities. He had little friends and hated getting washed.
     
  3. Onii-chan

    Onii-chan Prince

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    Err yeah that's what I meant to say. Would be pretty silly otherwise :crazyeye:
     
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  4. Zaarin

    Zaarin Chief Medical Officer, DS9

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    And for the third time I did say it was appropriate for him specifically, just disappointing more generally. :p
     
  5. Kupe Navigator

    Kupe Navigator Prince

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    I didn't see that reply... but still I find it weird that you are complaining about it when the leader is basically military computer who cared for little else.
    It would have been weirder to see him in the same outfit as say Justinian I
     
  6. blackcatatonic

    blackcatatonic Queen of Meme

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    He pretends to like them before he backstabs and destroys them, presumably!
     
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  7. bite

    bite Unofficial Civilization Cartographer Moderator

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    My overall thoughts of Byzantium are HERE, but overall if they are in your game I would say they are target number 1
     
  8. Kimiimaro

    Kimiimaro King

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    Time for a Komnenos in Civ VII to show some Byzantine spectacle? :D
     
  9. Kupe Navigator

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    oh just a small tibit.
    here is Basil II's epitaph
    " Verses funereal on the tomb of lord (kyr) Basil the Bulgar-slayer and emperor (basileus).
    Other kings of old, other
    burial places for themselves ordained,
    But I, Basil, born to the purple,
    place my tomb on the site of Hebdomon
    and I sabbatize from the endless toils
    which I accepted in battles, and which I endured.
    For nobody saw my spear at rest,
    from when the King of Heavens called me
    autokrator of the earth and senior emperor.
    but remaining vigilant through the whole span of my life
    guarding the children of New Rome
    when I marched bravely to the West (Hesperia),
    and as far as the very frontiers of the East (Eos),
    settling countless trophies all over the earth.
    The Persians and Scythians (Bulgars) bear witness to this,
    and along with them the Abasgian, Ishmael, the Arab, the Iberian.
    And now, man, looking upon this tomb
    reward my campaigns with prayers."

    What a guy.
     
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  10. Noble Zarkon

    Noble Zarkon Elite Quattromaster - Emperor (BTS) Moderator Hall of Fame Staff Supporter GOTM Staff

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    We feel your pain :)
     
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  11. bite

    bite Unofficial Civilization Cartographer Moderator

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    I think in the next update I will have a map that specifically shows just how hard it is to map Anatolia
     
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  12. MrRadar

    MrRadar Emperor

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    He does not need though to backstab. If a civ already follows the Byz religion, that's check for RV, and his troops goes after heathens, to kill/convert/conquer. Their aim is a war boosted RV. Before, you kinda needed to send religious units in both direcitons, Byz can send religious units one side, and military to the other side, to speed everything up.
     
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  13. Starina

    Starina Chieftain

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    What about the Vatican then?
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  14. Zaarin

    Zaarin Chief Medical Officer, DS9

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    Why strange? Byzantine costume was exquisite; it's a shame they missed the opportunity to flaunt it.

    Yes! :D
     
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  15. TheMarshmallowBear

    TheMarshmallowBear Benelovent Chieftain of the BearKingdom

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    Russia will have the edge, as their Lavra are cheaper. So if they both had the same outcome, Russia would built their Lavra faster, and thus generate the Great Prophet points earlier.
     
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  16. _hero_

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    Imagine Byzantine vampires with a bunch of holy cities converted and a Tagma nearby to boost combat strength.
     
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  17. bite

    bite Unofficial Civilization Cartographer Moderator

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    Thanks have updated the Features Thread
     
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  18. Kmart_Elvis

    Kmart_Elvis King

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    I'm quite impressed by this civ. Definitely an improvement over their iteration in Civ 5. I'm a big fan of synergetic civs, in this case domination helps religion, religion helps domination. Plus you're not pigeonholed into one Victory type every time.

    So much good stuff to unpack here. Crusade is 100% perfect as a belief for them. They get a bonus to founding a religion. Free units from their hippodrome. And they make cavalry awesome again, allowing you to bypass walls. Domination is actually my least favorite way to play, but this makes it interesting and different. Can't wait to see what they pull off with Gaul.
     
  19. Basileus Rhomaion

    Basileus Rhomaion Warlord

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    Kind of, it means "born in Porphyra". Porphyra was a Byzantine palace room were children of reigning emperors were born. The name does indeed come from "porphyron" though, the kind of purple used in the imperial court.

    The fluctuating borders was addressing the point about being "continuously decreasing in size". Obviously not all emperors were military-minded, but many were and Byzantium had advanced warfare tactics and organization centered as much in offence as it was in defence. When representing Byzantium under Basil's reign, a guy who usurped the entirety of its biggest European rival's land within his lifetime, it is imperative to put an emphasis in the military conquest department.

    As for reclaiming lost lands, I agree that would fit as well. However, that would be a more fitting trait for Byzantium under a Komnenos emperor rather than Basil. Similarly, with some emperors diplomacy and culture would have been more fitting than either offensive of defensive military might.

    It seems so, even though he preceded Basil by about 300 years and the structure of the military had changed significantly since then.
     
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  20. Laurana Kanan

    Laurana Kanan Don’t underestimate who I am.

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    Cropped from the official announcement screenshots:

    Dromon



    Tagma



    Hippodrome



    Hippodrome (from First Look)

     
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