C2C - UEM - Ultimate-Earth-Map 100% MOD and SVN update compatible by Pit2015
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Intentional, criminal units are not available to neanderthal civs.
A cheap army that is large compared to the population of the nation is believable for low tech nations, while the same is not true for a high tech army, it would either have to be smaller or more expensive.
Number of free units is calculated from the nation total population. High tech countries are likely to have more population per city and more money making buildings in them too so can afford the increasing cost of their army as tech progresses.
I was actually thinking we could introduce buildings that increase the amount of free unit upkeep. Also we could add in a tech tag that increase the base amount of free unit upkeep when the tech is discovered.
Civics should modify the free unit upkeep by a percentage rather than just adding a static amount to it.
Yeah, I intend to have the exact unit upkeep cost displayed in the unit tooltip so players get a sense of the numbers in play there.
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Well than there is a bug, having neanderthal culture will not allow me to build a thief unit, should be fixed. Neanderthal culture blocks the building of thief's. Also should not block the building of normal gatherers. Like you can build story tellers with neanderthal culture. Also normal hunters/trackers are blocked. At least thief or units where is no neanderthal unit is available for should work. Best all so gamer can select what he wants to build.
This is intentional, neanderthal civs should not have ANY criminal units until reaching ancient era. It's the downside of going neanderthal.
Homo sapiens gotta have one more edge than just cheaper units on their neanderthal neighbours, that being better at deception.
We want it to be so that if you have access to neanderthal units, then you won't have access to ANY non-neanderthal units.
It's an either-or setup.
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Ok.
Unit Upkeep Discussion we started here was moved to here:
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/unit-upkeep-modifications.660914/
https://forums.civfanatics.com/threads/unit-upkeep-modifications.660914/
Updated from 11192 to 11206 and continuing my game now... is not working getting errors.
FIX:
Reverted to SVN 11205 then deleted all conflicted files manually, reupdated SVN to 11206, then overwirte files with latitude mod https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...d-no-latitude-longitude-limits-modmod.630873/
Recalculation in game worked.
Now it works, can continue savegame now.
BTW, cool new upkeep cost display.
Also good fix to calculate unit cost and free units gold correctly.
BUG/PROBLEM:
@Toffer90 @raxo2222 @Thunderbrd - But looks like unit upkeep cost still not be calculated correctly, if i build a neanderthal watcher it says unit upkeep 3.80 but if build it will only ad +2.00 upgrade cost to the treasure chest complete calculation.
Adding test savegame 1 turn before watcher is build.
FIX:
Reverted to SVN 11205 then deleted all conflicted files manually, reupdated SVN to 11206, then overwirte files with latitude mod https://forums.civfanatics.com/thre...d-no-latitude-longitude-limits-modmod.630873/
Recalculation in game worked.
Now it works, can continue savegame now.
BTW, cool new upkeep cost display.
Also good fix to calculate unit cost and free units gold correctly.BUG/PROBLEM:
@Toffer90 @raxo2222 @Thunderbrd - But looks like unit upkeep cost still not be calculated correctly, if i build a neanderthal watcher it says unit upkeep 3.80 but if build it will only ad +2.00 upgrade cost to the treasure chest complete calculation.
Adding test savegame 1 turn before watcher is build.
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Ah, I see the problem, in the city screen it applies the size matter specific quality unitcombat modifier to unit upkeep, but you're not playing with size matter.
The unit on the map has the correct value in its tooltip because without size matter the units doesn't get that unitcombat, the city screen just look at the xml definition of the unit where they do have that unitcombat.
It's an easy fix, thanks for reporting it.
Edit: 11208 will have the fix, and it's on the way now.
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There was a time of 2 million years of rain on earth? Wow...
One of many times life was mostly completly wiped out on earth. Most humans think we are so good and untouchable, but we are only the last 4 lines on the last page from the 1000 pages book of earths history.
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2 Points i need to know for my ongoing game now... @Toffer90 @raxo2222 @Thunderbrd or others...
1. Is there a limit now on the distance to palace city maintenance cost? Letz say max cost is same after 20 plots or will it still increase endless with distance?
2. What is the XP normal limit level before you need animal hunter promotion to still get XP from animal combat for units currently?
One of many times life was mostly completly wiped out on earth. Most humans think we are so good and untouchable, but we are only the last 4 lines on the last page from the 1000 pages book of earths history.
EDIT:
2 Points i need to know for my ongoing game now... @Toffer90 @raxo2222 @Thunderbrd or others...
1. Is there a limit now on the distance to palace city maintenance cost? Letz say max cost is same after 20 plots or will it still increase endless with distance?
2. What is the XP normal limit level before you need animal hunter promotion to still get XP from animal combat for units currently?
1. There is no distance limit where it cap out.
2. 20 XP, and 40 XP if you have the "more XP to level" game-option on.
I think the "dynamic XP" BUG option allows XP above that, but you still get much less when hitting that limit.
Maybe there should be build in such a distance limit cap, so a more strategic gameplay with outposts, colonys and bases far away will be more easy possible in bit later game. Letz say a cap on 20 plots distance from palace, will limit civs to stay close early but if game goes on then also far citys will be possible.
Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
Gonna disagree. I don't think there should be a limit.
It's also interesting that we're going to have to figure out something complicated to express that distance between different maps...
Distance from palace cost decrease/increase by mapsize, or letz flag a city as colony/outpost with new button so it will be limited then to 2 or 3 pops but has a reduced maintenance cost. If you want to build a super power you need far away bases.
To react to world conflicts in time.May work now if you can manage to get a big income but will be more strategic gameplay if possible a bit more easyer, citynumber cost still in also.
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It does.
That's possible, isn't it?or letz flag a city as colony with new button so it will be limited then to 2 or 3 pops but has a reduced maintenance cost. If you want to build a super power you need far away bases.
But this change of a city to a colony/outpost via button should be reversable to change it back to normal city, but than full cost will hit again. Flagging a city to colony/outpost should limit to 2/3 pops or kill all pops over 2/3 pops also if you change a full city back to colony/outpost. So the gamer will think twise to make a colony/outpost to city or reduce it back to colony/outpost if in financial trouble. Also the gamer will think twise about to upgrade the colony/outpost to a full city.
Also can be limited by letz say you need 3 full citys before you are able to build colony/outposts via settlers if needed.
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Thunderbrd
C2C War Dog
You have to do this with the frequently available wonders C2C provides that create secondary palaces.If you want to build a super power you need far away bases.
Or i mod the distance cost. 
But may be a cool mod improvment, think about. Keeps the game hard with the high maintenance cost but small colonys/outposts still possible.
That will not neglate the secondary palaces, they still good for reducing full city cost on larger areas.
Then you can build a secondary palace on this colonys/outposts and get a foot into a far away area instead building citys mostly only close to your civ start point.
But may be a cool mod improvment, think about. Keeps the game hard with the high maintenance cost but small colonys/outposts still possible.That will not neglate the secondary palaces, they still good for reducing full city cost on larger areas.
Then you can build a secondary palace on this colonys/outposts and get a foot into a far away area instead building citys mostly only close to your civ start point.
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