But don't you know all that is just a lie ?Taliesin said:The remnants of Magellan's crew that limped back into Portugal in 1522 proved that the world was spherical. It was Friday in Lisbon, but the crew insisted, by its records, that it was Thursday, the reason being that they had gained a day by circumnavigating the globe. The Earth had rotated one fewer time relative to the ship because the ship had completed a full "rotation" in the same direction, cancelling one day out.
YNCS said:Here's a picture of our world taken by astronauts and surpressed by The Great Scientific Conspiracy!
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'Objective' history says that democracy was born in Greece.Marla_Singer said:Well, I guess what "Too Great" tried to explain in his first post is that there are many things which are learnt to us as if it were objective truth. I find the example of the earth shape being rather awckward since that is actually an objective truth... and a lot of hypocrisy is needed to deny it.
Nevertheless, I think that most of the incomprehension between different cultures or countries come from the fact we don't learn the same "truthes". For instance, we learn in the US that democracy is born in America where in Britain we learn it's born in Britain and finally where in France we learn it's born in France.
It's also a stupid example but the point is that we don't see the things through the same eyes.
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Ok Yuri. Let's call it "modern representative model of democracy" and start again.Yuri2356 said:'Objective' history says that democracy was born in Greece.
(Not that I don't get what you're saying, you just chose an odd example)
Marla_Singer said:Ok Yuri. Let's call it "modern representative model of democracy" and start again.![]()
You've got it.Yuri2356 said:Or perhaps 'true' democracy would get your point across. Where Americans say 'true' democracy is their republic, whereas in Britain it's their Parliment, and so on and so forth.
That is not really proof of a spherical Earth. At any time, roughly half of the Earth's surface is illuminated by the sun. It would depend where the line was drawn, dividing day from night, defining your "one side". But in any case, the edge could not be at the equator, nor at any latitude or longitude line at all, because of the tilt of the Earth's axis.Yom said:Ah, so we're just living on one side of the coin. If that's the case, then why are there disrepancies in day and night between areas on the Earth? If it were a flat surface, then there would surely be an instant where all places on one side of the Earth were illuminated at once, which is not the case.
Well, it's currently day time in Australia and night time in Europe.CruddyLeper said:If the earth is flat, how come the shadow causes lunar eclipses? And how come there's such a thing as satellite TV? What keeps the satellite up there is the same reason the earth keeps spinning.
Also, if you've been to different latitudes, you will notice how the sun and moon seem to move at different speeds across different arcs - impossible with a flat earth.
There is no satelite TV, you've been snookered by the same people who brought you the moon landings. It's really just broadcast TV with a price tag. Free TV that cost $45 a month!CruddyLeper said:If the earth is flat, how come there's such a thing as satellite TV? What keeps the satellite up there is the same reason the earth keeps spinning.
That question is child's play for me. Light travels not in a straight line, but in waves. As you can see from Figure 1, the lightwave hits half of the earth but not the other half. Once the earth rotates, the other half would see light.Mise said:How do you have day and night with a flat Earth? I'm genuinely curious, actually.
Orion can be upside down or right side up depending on which way you turn.Rik Meleet said:-Orion was upside down when I was in Australia. That would be explainable only if I was at the other side of the flat earth; but that would mean I'd noticed the brim of the coin. I didn't.
On the contrary GOVna, I know more physics than you, and I have already found the edge.Perfection said:Too Great, go find the edge. Until then, "BAH!"
Oh, and learn physics.
Maybe the reason you think that the Earth is round is because you're the star on the Truman Show. Perhaps you were shown the Truman Show as a hint that you're on the Truman Show. Perhaps I'm tell you this as another hint. Perhaps, I'm not talking to you, but to you.IglooDude said:It is more likely that I'm the star in some sort of Truman Show than it is that there is a worldwide conspiracy to cover up the fact that the Earth is flat.
Yom said:1. Even if there were an equator on a flat Earth (are we just living on one side of the coin or both?), only the outside edges along a line orthogonal to the axis would be going a lot faster.
2.The weightlessness comes from the fact that they are orbiting the Earth and therefore constantly falling towards it (that's essentially what orbit is). When you are freefalling, you experience weightlessness, which is why they feel weightless.
3. Any theory that depends on a supernatural being to control it violates Occam's Razor and is not scientific.
Going from Sydney to LA can be explained for an earth of any shape. Even my 1-D Earther friends would be able to explain that using their theory.Marla_Singer said:How airplanes could go from Sydney to Los Angeles if the Earth were flat ?
I'm an engineer, not an artist. Focus on the beauty of the argument, not the art.CruddyLeper said:That diagram has a transparent Earth.
It doesn't look transparent to me in real life, flat or not.