Can the earth be flat

[CruddyLeper]

As an engineer, you can't have light travelling through the earth like your diagram shows.

 

[Quasar1011]

The best evidence of this is that even the Vatican recognized that the earth was indeed spherical... in 1989.

Perhaps they don't read the Book of Isaiah in the Vatican then...

Isaiah 40:22
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.

 

[Sims2789]

My rebuttal:

 

[Sims2789]

Stupid fundi psuedo-science...

 

[Yuri2356]

But if the earth was round, how do you explain the Bermuda Triangle, where ships just mysteriously disappear? Things don't just mysteriously disappear, but they can be accidentally flicked off if they sail too close to the edge. See Figure 2

Your Figure 2 seems to claim that South America doesn't exist...

 

[Sims2789]

But if the earth was round, how do you explain the Bermuda Triangle, where ships just mysteriously disappear? Things don't just mysteriously disappear, but they can be accidentally flicked off if they sail too close to the edge. See Figure 2

Because there are numerous shipping lanes which intersect in the Termuda Triangle, and where there are more ships there are more shipwrecks.

 

[homeyg]

The Earth is not flat.

Also, I hate to break it to you, but light travels in straight lines (rays).

 

[alphanav1]

2. That would explain the shuttle not falling, but it wouldn't explain why the astronauts aren't forced to the walls because of the acceleration. What about astronauts repairing the telescope outside, why do they feel weightless.

Everything at a certain orbit including the shuttle, people in the shuttle, space station, or satellite falls at the same rate.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gravity

My proof that stuff in orbit will fall at the same rate, you just need to plug in numbers to get the answer.

Acceleration of Gravity Formula

A = G * ((M_Earth)/(D_Earth))

G = Gravity constant = G = 6.67 × 10−11 N m2 kg-2
M_Earth = Mass of Earth
D_Earth = Distance from center of Earth to low earth orbit

Just to help you along.

The answer is 8.9 m/s^2 just to tell you. Distance from center of Earth to low earth orbit, which is where the shuttle, space station, satellites and most everything else is.

Also gravity forces large objects into spheres. I will explain later, but not now.

If you are not Joking about this whole thing you are a ******.

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[Knowze Gungk]

Before I go on. A Giant tortoise is ridulous.

Indeed it is. How the hell can A tortoise swim through the endless depths of space?

It's a turtle, for crying out loud!

On a serious note, take a ride over the ocean in an airoplane, look out the window & you will see the curvature of the earth for yourself.

Also, reasarch your "facts" before you use them in an argument, make sure they are actually facts & not old beliefs, otherwise you end up standing on your own d.... er, toes.

 

[Nobody]

i was always thinking, what proff is there that africa exists? iv never been there , no one i know has been there (my nana and grandad went through the suez but how do they know that it wasnt just England changed to appear like that) May its a huge conspiricy so the sultan of bruni and Bill Clinton can make billions in charity payments, there is no "third world" at all its only used to get money out of the first and only world. Also anyone here who claims to of been Africa is just a lying conspricer who is being payed by bill clinton and the bruni royal familiy

 

[carlosMM]

That question is child's play for me. Light travels not in a straight line, but in waves. As you can see from Figure 1, the lightwave hits half of the earth but not the other half. Once the earth rotates, the other half would see light.

But your wavelength is massively wrong then

On the contrary GOVna, I know more physics than you, and I have already found the edge.

Please post proof.

But if the earth was round, how do you explain the Bermuda Triangle, where ships just mysteriously disappear? Things don't just mysteriously disappear, but they can be accidentally flicked off if they sail too close to the edge. See Figure 2

Sorry, but cancelling out whole continents is not gonna do it - could you please post a picture taken from sufficient distance that actually shows the Bermuda triangle this close to the edge? I seem to remember South American in the vincinity there....







this be fun thread

 

[IglooDame]

But if the earth was round, how do you explain the Bermuda Triangle, where ships just mysteriously disappear? Things don't just mysteriously disappear, but they can be accidentally flicked off if they sail too close to the edge. See Figure 2

I've sailed through the Bermuda Triangle (and I was the navigator at the time) and I'm quite certain I would have recalled seeing an edge of the Earth, had there been one there.

How do you explain an edge that centers on a point? If your theory was correct then the ship (and aircraft) disappearances would extend in a rough line for thousands of miles, not be centered in an area of a few hundred miles.

The Bermuda Triangle is more completely explained by either alien intervention or gas release from the seabed (or both) than by an edge-of-the-earth theory.

 

[Akka]

Stop feeding the troll, for crying out loud.

And Ainwood, please, stop treating him as if he had "an unpopular opinion". If he really believes that, he's an idiotic loon, and most probably, he's just trying to stirr trouble with troll bait. I see no need to defend him.

 

[CurtSibling]

When we can question something that is completely obvious, and within our
grasp to fathom....it says much about the state of our education systems!

 

[CurtSibling]

Perhaps they don't read the Book of Isaiah in the Vatican then...

Isaiah 40:22
He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in.

They mean a 'circle' in the mystical sense....

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[IglooDame]

Stop feeding the troll, for crying out loud.

And Ainwood, please, stop treating him as if he had "an unpopular opinion". If he really believes that, he's an idiotic loon, and most probably, he's just trying to stirr trouble with troll bait. I see no need to defend him.

I don't know, I find it interesting to see how an accepted fact can be questioned, maybe I'm just too much of a devil's advocate fanboy. Besides, I don't see what trouble can be stirred other than people occasionally calling him a moron.

 

[betazed]

Here is another interesting question that I was thinking of.

Is there any shape apart from a sphere that could explain all the local phenomenon that we see on the earth's surface (like the horizon, geometric measurements, seasons, day and night) etc. The closest I could come to is a toroid. But it is not perfect since half of the toroid would have a uplsoping horizon. apart from that restriction the earth could be a toroid and still behave exactly as like we see it.

 

[carlosMM]

Here is another interesting question that I was thinking of.

Is there any shape apart from a sphere that could explain all the local phenomenon that we see on the earth's surface (like the horizon, geometric measurements, seasons, day and night) etc. The closest I could come to is a toroid. But it is not perfect since half of the toroid would have a uplsoping horizon. apart from that restriction the earth could be a toroid and still behave exactly as like we see it.

a uniform g value would not be present on a toroid.

 

[betazed]

a uniform g value would not be present on a toroid.

True. But we do not have a uniform g value on earth as well. it varies from the poles to the equator. So we have local variation of g value. On a toroid also we will have local variation of g value. on a toroid large enough the variation will be small locally.

 

[carlosMM]

True. But we do not have a uniform g value on earth as well. it varies from the poles to the equator. So we have local variation of g value. On a toroid also we will have local variation of g value. on a toroid large enough the variation will be small locally.

you'd need a really huge toroid to get similar g-values on the outer and inner rim. Such a toroid would not be stable under its own gravitational influence (i.e. it would collapse).


OK, OK; getting hard to test, you need some maths for this