Something isn't right about the returns after they were recosted. They should never be able to give more than they cost to train. Perhaps part of it has something to do with the production modifiers in the city applying to overflow as if the overflow is base production and its getting time to address that somehow (been a problem since vanilla IIRC).
Opinion noted. I disagree.
Truth is, I plan to change merchants so they don't actually give anything they don't take from somewhere else anyhow. So they are just becoming a transportation of goods rather than potentially the generation of goods. There should be NO reason to limit them at that point and so I'm trying to figure out where we have problems now if they ARE unlimited.I knew you would. But I said it anyway.
Aside from +1 commerce, giving us, finally, an improvement that gives +1 Commerce as opposed to just one for food (seed camp) and one for production(stone tools), since commerce may not seem as valuable to some, and since it's a seasonal home for your people, they spend time there and investigate the area by nature of living there regularly. As a result, when worked, it has a chance to create a bonus on that plot from among the types of bonuses you have revealed on the map. It's a small chance but the most open ended chance for just about any resource type that you can get in the game. If one is already there but you can't see it, nothing would be discovered until you find the tech that reveals what's already there. It can actually make a resource be there that wasn't previously defined on the map.
Raxo set it up and I think he had that intention but I'm not sure.
I think if we do this right, there will need to be some ways that it quickly improves, just like stone tools and wood collectors. Seed camps probably need some steps where they improve a bit too to keep pace there - they massively jump up at farms but maybe they can get a tech based increase or two along the way to balance them out as well.
If I'm not mistaken, the AI may well see a commerce as equivalent to any other yield and that's about all it looks at for value to make plot working choices. There's a bit more to it and the possibility of finding resources may weight the AI measure a touch - maybe we'll need to tweak the code to take it more fully into account but his initial tests suggests they aren't too bad with it right now. Of course, it shouldn't become the overwhelming choice either and perhaps the best case would be if the preferred improvements get a little weight based on flavors and the leader preference as well. There's certainly some room for refinement I believe.
More that your tribe lives here at certain times of the year and in doing so and spending intimate time there as their home they may notice that some things are available here that can be helpful that they didn't notice before.(Possibility of revealing resources)
Because they are living here, they discover things that exist there naturally. They aren't planting or placing, they are discovering what they were initially overlooking.
They can be placed on any land tile.
I thought the tiles need to be worked to be able to find a resource. So how does it help to build many camps when you can only work 1 or 2 of them (prehistoric towns are small), or even build them outside the fat cross?
My work mules definitely can't build them on peaks (before Mountaineering).
Do you have latest SVN?
In latest SVN they do, but this doesn't work for already placed seasonal camps.
Its possible to make second improvement for that, but they don't want it lol
I just want the seasonal camp to not replace improvements and then block me from accessing resources.
