Changes to marriage laws in 7 states of the USA

[Xanikk999]

Show me how these laws are religious in nature. MobBoss has pointed out that there are no, I repeat, absolutely no religious context in those laws. So I am sorry but its not imposing religious laws on gays .

I refuted them. But i dont feel like searching so if you want to you can do that.

 

[Gilder]

Show me how these laws are religious in nature. MobBoss has pointed out that there are no, I repeat, absolutely no religious context in those laws. So I am sorry but its not imposing religious laws on gays .

Why do you find homosexual marriages wrong than?

 

[Trajan12]

Not really. Hitler was Kanzler BEFORE the Reichstag fire.

He became dictator as a result of the Riechstag fire, I never denied he was elected. That is one of my major beefs with the people of nazi-Germany.

 

[GinandTonic]

Wow - the right looses one house and looks like it will loose the other, so they slap each others backs for limiting freedom and increasing the governments powers to perpetuate biggotry.

Congrats fellas, good job.

 

[Atlas14]

I dont see it as discrimination and denial of freedom to homosexuals. Homosexuals do have the freedom to marry, The right to marry a member of someone of the opposite gender. Also, Sexual orientation is not the same as race. Equating Sexual Orientation as a Race is just plain silly IMO.


The Religious will rise up against the heathens who are persecuting them. See what happened to the Roman Empire when they tried to suppress and banned Christianity.

1. It doesn't matter at all! Homosexuals are still people, the Constitution says ALL PEOPLE have equal rights under the law. You are adding the part where homosexuals do not have that right.

2. Try switching it around. The barbaric Christians that do not even believe in science are the ones persecuting the homosexuals!!

 

[.Shane.]

Yep its rule of the 400ish in the house and 100 in the senate.

Its more than that.

Its the Electoral College. Its the fact that the Senate isn't based on population, hence Montana has the same voice as California. Its the fact that that same, majority-thwarting Senate approves the judicial choices of the Electoral College elected president. Its the entire philosophy behind an independent judiciary.

Wow - the right looses one house and looks like it will loose the other, so they slap each others backs for limiting freedom and increasing the governments powers to perpetuate biggotry.

Congrats fellas, good job.

Don't forget all the circle jerking in this thread!

 

[Trajan12]

Huh?

Its all checks and balances. I'm not saying the majority rule doesn't prevail in some cases, but if you think that's what defines the US system of government you are sadly mistaken and living in a state of ignorance.

No thats not what Im saying. Im saying that banning gay marriage is what they chose by reforandum, so we cannot deny that their choice is legitimate..

 

[GenMarshall]

They're both genetic, and something you can't really change easily. There's simply no physical features involved in homosexuality. By denying them the freedom to marry whomever they want, you deny that they are equal humans.

Race is Genetic, Homosexuality however is not. I stand that Homosexuality is a choice that an individual makes based on the influences of whatever hormones and the environment that child has been through.

You're very lucky athiests aren't the violent type.

You be surprised that Christians too can defend themselves as well if persecuted .

 

[Atlas14]

No thats not what Im saying. Im saying that banning gay marriage is what they chose by reforandum, so we cannot deny that their choice is legitimate..

It is not legitimate. It violates the law of the land. What is so hard to understand about that?

 

[.Shane.]

No thats not what Im saying. Im saying that banning gay marriage is what they chose by reforandum, so we cannot deny that their choice is legitimate..

Of course "we" (being you and I) can't. But courts can. This is the sole purpose of their existence. To check the power of the govt. To check the potential tyranny of the majority.

 

[Gilder]

Race is Genetic, Homosexuality however is not. I stand that Homosexuality is a choice that an individual makes based on the influences of whatever hormones and the environment that child has been through.

Even so, as long as a personal choice does not harm anyone, there is no reason to deny a related choice.

You be surprised that Christians too can defend themselves as well if persecuted .

Athiests can just as well.

 

[willemvanoranje]

Allright so then just give it a different name. Are there really people out there who are ok with other people being gay, but don't want them to bond in some kind of union?? If they exist, they should stop and think for a while, and realise how stupid it is to fight over a word.

 

[Atlas14]

Race is Genetic, Homosexuality however is not. I stand that Homosexuality is a choice that an individual makes based on the influences of whatever hormones and the environment that child has been through.

Why would anyone want to be a gay black guy, when discrimination against blacks is bad enough? There are plenty of gay blacks, but why would they choose?

 

[Trajan12]

It is not legitimate. It violates the law of the land. What is so hard to understand about that?

Show me the law that states that one can hold no vote on whether or not we can ban gay marriage. Until then, they have made their choice.

 

[Trajan12]

Why would anyone want to be a gay black guy, when discrimination against blacks is bad enough? There are plenty of gay blacks, but why would they choose?

There is nothing you can do about being black.

 

[.Shane.]

It is not legitimate. It violates the law of the land. What is so hard to understand about that?

Not necessarily true. Again, this is why courts exist. To interpret the "law of the land" and when the electorate, the Congress, the Executive, is wrong, to correct them.

Its pretty simple, though a lot of people like to act in indignation when courts follow the mandate they were given by the Founding Fathers.

 

[Gilder]

There is nothing you can do about being black.

And there is nothing you can do about who you fall in love with, or who you like, opposite gender or same gender.

 

[Atlas14]

Show me the law that states that one can hold no vote on whether or not we can ban gay marriage. Until then, they have made their choice.

The Constitution clearly states that all men are created equal and have the same rights as every other person as granted by the Constitution. This part cannot be amended or taken away at all. They have NO right whatsoever to make such a law, voted on or not.

 

[Atlas14]

There is nothing you can do about being black.

So why would they make their situation worse by "being gay"?

 

[Trajan12]

And there is nothing you can do about who you fall in love with, or who you like, opposite gender or same gender.

Oh lets not get into the people are born gay argument.