Changing the way terrain tiles are worked

[frizzy]

If population isn't subtracted as workers are created, then the population implied by the worker gets counted twice, and gets to do two things at once.

 

[Spartan300]

how about this as a compromise?
in civ 3, so memory serves colonies could be built by workers why not reintroduce it?
so city boundaries stay in effect as they are but if a resource lies outside one you can send a worker there to farm/mine/whatever that needs to be done there and it eitehyr goes into a pool or city.
Gangor, referring to another thread about supplies if we did use supplies why dont we tie it into city growth as an option? so a city that uou dedicate x supplies per turn will then draw those supplies from your supply pool and the city generates an extra person either to work the tiles or be a specialist.
that way supplies could be used for war/trading and growth during peacetime, essentially another form of capital that will rise/fall with value depending on the circumstances in the world essentially making a global economy in the game

 

[rysmiel]

i actually never really understood why so many games do this. it seems kind of like saying, "okay, you live here, but since you have a job we're not going to count you in our population."

Bu they don't live in the city any more. They are out in the country building stuff.

 

[awesome]

Bu they don't live in the city any more. They are out in the country building stuff.

then where do they live?

 

[frizzy]

If they're inside the city radius, then presumably they're living in that city, sort of (though they don't eat the city's food). If between cities, then a remote village or work camp (historical example: railheads in the Old West during the building of the railroads).

100% realistic? No.

 

[rysmiel]

then where do they live?

on the square, for the turns/years they are working on it.

 

[Takhisis]

So if that tile is captured you lose population? Are they killed? Captured? Do they go into hiding? Do they get a chance to run away?

 

[rysmiel]

So if that tile is captured you lose population? Are they killed? Captured? Do they go into hiding? Do they get a chance to run away?

They become a worker unit belonging to whoever captured them. An enslaved worker that works at half-speed, perhaps.

 

[frizzy]

So if that tile is captured you lose population? Are they killed? Captured? Do they go into hiding? Do they get a chance to run away?

Are you talking about workers, or population points?

Workers get captured. Population gets displaced.

 

[Camikaze]

It seems to make sense to me. I mean, the population of your cities is the population that is the total population that is working tiles. If you make a worker, then presumably you do not have as many people working tiles, as the worker (and the people who would comprise the worker unit) would be busy building improvements.

 

[deanej]

What I've always wondered is, why are workers different from any other unit? I can see settlers, but if we use that logic with workers, shouldn't we use it with every other unit in the game?

 

[Gangor]

I've thought about this a little more and to me the present system seems more and more illogical. Workers build farms, yet no-one actually works in them until the population increases, however the (health) benefits of the tile resources can be used by the whole civ immediately. The whole population of a city can work down a mine, yet they are still somehow magically fed. Tiles 2 from the city to the north can be used, however tiles 2 from the city to the north east cannot.

These gaps of logic are not difficult to fill!!

 

[killmeplease]

The whole population of a city can work down a mine, yet they are still somehow magically fed.

no magic. they grow food on their truck farms / gardens on their free time. My grandma used to do this.