Cheater Thread at CIV2 PBEM Forum

[Case]

To TF's proposal from me as well.

Originally posted by conmcb25
Case what is your point.

I've got a problem with the moderator of the forum maintaining a private list of cheaters which he sends to all newbies. Call me paranoid, but such a system is wide open to abuse and/or mistakes. A public list would avoid these problems as everyone would be able to spot mistakes.

even though at last count 17 PBEMers were in favor of the list.

Seeing as SunTzu specifically posted that he'd delete any non-positive votes, I don't think that that thread has a huge deal of credability

 

[SunTzu]

Actually if you think about it, I wanted to see how many people wanted the list, and i got the number.

 

[gonzo_for_civ]

Actually if you think about it, it doesn't matter much does it?

BTW sun, you should move Staff and Forum Moderator to the next line in your sig..it'd look better.

 

[Case]

Originally posted by SunTzu
Actually if you think about it, I wanted to see how many people wanted the list, and i got the number.

Sure, but you didn't find out how many people don't want the list.

 

[Darius]

Originally posted by Case
I've got a problem with the moderator of the forum maintaining a private list of cheaters which he sends to all newbies. Call me paranoid, but such a system is wide open to abuse and/or mistakes. A public list would avoid these problems as everyone would be able to spot mistakes.

Originally posted by Case
Seeing as SunTzu specifically posted that he'd delete any non-positive votes, I don't think that that thread has a huge deal of credability

Case, that thread was not a poll to see who is for and against it, it was a petition, and that was clearly stated in the thread's title.

 

[gonzo_for_civ]

Again, that REALLY doesn't matter

The decision to not allow a public blacklist has already been made, and an effective system is now in place.

I really don't see what's left to argue, cheaters will be restricted from playing anymore..no bothering w/lists.

 

[SunTzu]

my arguement is people in the staff who aren't even PBEMers who think they run the site who give their opinion which isn't the majority of what PBEMers think. This list in no way will affect, the OT forums, or the Civ3 forums, this is for Civ 2- PBEM, hell this won't even affect the other Civ2 Forums, it won't affect the site either. Its a list of known cheaters, no one wants to play with someone who is a 2 time cheater. I think the decision to not have the list was a very stupid one, but its not like i can change TF's mind, maybe i'll throw a tantrum to try and change his mind and then threaten to quit, maybe that'll do it...

 

[Darius]

Give it up SunTzu...

 

[damunzy]

@ SunTzu:
I think TF would like you to do that.


Let me lead you to the light my son: Real life is calling you....will you heed it's call? Give up the fanaticism of Civ and live life.

 

[SunTzu]

i'm living life plenty, just having some fun on here poking fun at somethings....

 

[gonzo_for_civ]

my arguement is people in the staff who aren't even PBEMers who think they run the site who give their opinion which isn't the majority of what PBEMers think. This list in no way will affect, the OT forums, or the Civ3 forums, this is for Civ 2- PBEM, hell this won't even affect the other Civ2 Forums, it won't affect the site either. Its a list of known cheaters, no one wants to play with someone who is a 2 time cheater. I think the decision to not have the list was a very stupid one, but its not like i can change TF's mind, maybe i'll throw a tantrum to try and change his mind and then threaten to quit, maybe that'll do it...

Actually if you think about it, I wanted to see how many people wanted the list, and i got the number.

Really sun? Arguing about staff interference. So I guess the people in the above post really means staff members, wanting means not wanting, and "got the number" refers to getting told to buzz off

You really should stop speaking in code sun....

 

[Darius]

Originally posted by gonzo_for_civ
Really sun? Arguing about staff interference. So I guess the people in the above post really means staff members, wanting means not wanting, and "got the number" refers to getting told to buzz off

You really should stop speaking in code sun....

 

[gonzo_for_civ]

Din't ask darius..you'd have to read the first quote..my post is a reply to the first quote using the 2nd quote as an example....sun'll understand

Basically I called him a liar

 

[Darius]

I still don't get it... the first post was about how other moderators are meddling with things that aren't their business, and the second one was in response to Case saying that the petition was simply looking for how many PBEM players supported a public list. The two quotes are totally unrelated AFAICS, so can you clarify?

 

[gonzo_for_civ]

Sun was claiming to be arguing against moderators meddling in someone else's business. However IIRC, he might've made a grand total of 2 posts on the arguement.

What I'm trying to show is that no one is actually arguing anything that matters anymore, nor are they doing anything except uselessly debating dead topics.

Hope it makes more sense..I'm in the middle of a MP Civ2 game so I'm a little occupied

 

[Thunderfall]

Just drop it everyone. I thought we reached an agreement already.

SunTzu, you can start sending me the list of confirmed cheaters. If you don't want to ban them from the MP/PBEM forums forever, specify how many weeks/months the ban should be.

You are also welcomed to start a black list thread in the staff forum.

 

[Darius]

Originally posted by Thunderfall
I thought we reached an agreement already.

Not an 'agreement', but a surrender to your authority.

 

[Case]

It's his site

 

[SunTzu]

ugh, i give up!

 

[Darius]

Originally posted by Case
It's his site

Yes... I wasn't complaining, I accept his decision. I'm just letting him know that this is hardly an 'agreement'.