China invasion of Taiwan POLL!

[AceChilla]

I'm a non-european, and even if I know that it would never happen, I sure wish that my country would send troops to defend Taiwan.

Unlike the cynics here, I still believe in defending democracy.

I don't look forward to war against the asian giant, but if they invade Taiwa they'll be the aggressors.

And remember - technically China is rebel province of Taiwan, and not the other way around.

Defending democracy is fine, and it would be a shame when Taiwan's democracy falls. But the future of democracy in the world is not depend on the faith of Taiwan alone. There are enough democratic countries in Asia to show all other countries in the region that that's the road to go forward, even China is moving in that direction.

And interference from the west in this conflict will have a desastrous effect for all countries involved. If we want to do what's best for China and the rest of Asia then we should not interfere. It will not only hamper democratic reforms in China but also will be very bad for our relations with the rest of Asia.

And it would probably kill millions of people, esspecially if the 7th fleet and the rest of the US airforce and navy would go all out on China. I don't even think Taiwan would want an all out destructive war on their soil.

 

[Marla_Singer]

Where's the don't know option ?

EDIT : To explain my doubts, I think it's a very bad idea to start a world war 3 and I wouldn't be one supporting such a move. However, the Americans would consider me as a sissy if I pick "no". As I represent France on this chatroom... I can't let such a thing happen.

 

[luiz]

Defending democracy is fine, and it would be a shame when Taiwan's democracy falls. But the future of democracy in the world is not depend on the faith of Taiwan alone. There are enough democratic countries in Asia to show all other countries in the region that that's the road to go forward, even China is moving in that direction.

And interference from the west in this conflict will have a desastrous effect for all countries involved. If we want to do what's best for China and the rest of Asia then we should not interfere. It will not only hamper democratic reforms in China but also will be very bad for our relations with the rest of Asia.

And it would probably kill millions of people, esspecially if the 7th fleet and the rest of the US airforce and navy would go all out on China. I don't even think Taiwan would want an all out destructive war on their soil.

If nukes are not used and Taiwan receives amrican help, the chinese would never be able to occupy the island. Taiwan alone would be almost a match for the chinese invaders.

 

[LesCanadiens]

The Korean war of the 1950's was a draw - Unless history has been heavily revised in Canada?

We won

The communist objective was to conquer South Korea. They failed to do so.

Our objective was to prevent communist takeover of South Korea. We succeeded in doing so.

Not to mention the casualty rates were massively in favour of the United Nations forces.

We kept communist aggression in check.

End of discussion.

 

[zjl56]

No we wanted to unite Korea. We took control of Korea, but then China got involved. they pushed us back but we stood at the 38th parrallel. So we failed to unite Korea but we saved South Korea.

 

[Enkidu Warrior]

Just to contradict LesCanadiens silly final sentence, I think if you look at the Korean peninsula today I think it's hard to say we won. Did the UNSC resolution declare the intention to defend South Korea only, or to restore a unified Korea? Either way there was a clear intention to take North Korea until China intervened.

Neither side surrendered. There was no victory. It was a draw.

End of discussion

 

[Ballazic]

Um i think that a lot of you are cowards. I have heard only two good reasons not to go. If it is best thing to do. The cost doesn't matter.

 

[Zcylen]

who cares if China invades Taiwan without provocation?
I mean, is it really important?
btw, fighting for the democracy is the secong biggest lie (the first is the fight against terrorism)

 

[eyrei]

btw, fighting for the democracy is the secong biggest lie (the first is the fight against terrorism)

Especially when the 'enemy' is communism. I guess that is what 50 years of government propoganda does to us...

 

[Enkidu Warrior]

Um i think that a lot of you are cowards. I have heard only two good reasons not to go. If it is best thing to do. The cost doesn't matter.

When the cost is nuclear war I think it matters a great deal. I say this out of self-interest but also out of common sense. If the world is a pile of rubble we haven't really saved anything.

 

[alex994]

If China is a rebel province, how come it's China threatening to invade Taiwan instead of the other way around? Taiwan IS NOT worth a war with China!

 

[Souron]

Yes, the US has some sort of alliance with Taiwan requiring it to do so.

This alliance does not apply to peaceful assimilation however.

 

[GerrardCapashen]

If nukes are not used and Taiwan receives amrican help, the chinese would never be able to occupy the island. Taiwan alone would be almost a match for the chinese invaders.

This is certainly true. In addition to having a largely outdated air force, the Chinese military doesn't have nearly enough transport vessels to transport a significant ground force to Taiwan, presumably under fire from Taiwanese defense forces. Their troops would probably all die before they even landed. Nukes could destroy Taiwan but that wouldn't really benefit China as the rest of the world would ally against them and Taiwan would be uninhabitable anyways. Nukes can't be used to clear landing zones because then you have troops charging into radioactive debris, so while China could destroy Taiwan they cannot conquer it.

 

[GerrardCapashen]

If China is a rebel province, how come it's China threatening to invade Taiwan instead of the other way around? Taiwan IS NOT worth a war with China!

Because China is bigger then Taiwan, and can claim that Taiwan is the rebel side. China's rulers don't care that this is false, and why would they? China has a poor record regarding its treatment of the small countries around it.

 

[Free Enterprise]

What if China launches invasion of Taiwan, unprovoked. Would you want your country to help save this Democracy, with your own soldiers?

Considering this is the wording of question: Why are so many people saying that if a Western or non-Chinese, non-Taiwan country sent troops it would "be starting World War III"? That sounds quite prejudicial against the West/external countries. The forces sent to the island would only be defending against aggression (which includes fighting on enemy soil). Although it would increase the size and scale of the war it is not like the outside country will have caused the war.

 

[alex994]

While that is true, the present government's ppl r doing a LOT better then under the Nationalists when they ruled China....Taiwan, is after all, considered part of China proper.

 

[crystal]

War against China just because of some island called Taiwan would be a utter moronic thing to do for everybody.

And besides, my nation's power projection capability is about zero.

Edit: if it was possible for China to invade Taiwan, it would mean China's military was a lot more powerful than today.

 

[Voynich]

It would depend on how violent the conflict would become. It would be very risky to fight China in this issue because of the explosion it could cause in China. China's fanatical military might be willing to nuke enemy navies that are helping Taiwan (which is not the same as nuking the foe's mainland) so it can conduct a blockade. Much would depend on China's ability to defeat Taiwan's airfoce (which relies on quality rather than quantity or morale).

If the war scenario is set to some date after 2112 then China would have an extremely good chance of prevailing. The best thing to do is to encourage China and Taiwan not to provoke each other.

 

[EzInKy]

War against China just because of some island called Taiwan would be a utter moronic thing to do for everybody.

Yes, it would be just as stupid as having a war just to defend some wasteland called Finland, wouldn't it?

 

[crystal]

Yes, it would be just as stupid as having a war just to defend some wasteland called Finland, wouldn't it?

You really can't make such a comparison. Those are two places on the opposite sides of the Earth. And besides, Finland also belongs to the EU. Would the world just stay idle if, for example, Turkey invaded Greece? That's just as legitimate a comparison as the one you posted.