Civ Gold didnt include Koreans!?

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Over the holidays there was a sale on Civ Gold addition. I was expecting it to have every DLC included when I gifted it to my cousin. But, I just found out it doesn't have Koreans nor Ancient Wonders DLC. Do you guys know why? I mean every other DLC is in. This just doesn't make sense, we wasted 3 hrs trying to set up a game where he couldn't green up.
 
more likely they were all made about the same time, and pre-planned to be released in this way so that your cousin can still buy some DLC, and many games are following a model where they release complete edition followed by 4 more DLC items or so and another complete edition or goty edition or something. its to make sure there is no one copy of the game you can buy to get it all. i say over 2012, they will release Carthage and Celts for sure and either Kongo or Zulu.

Then, they will release GRAND FINAL EDITION CIV 5 - and a month later, they will release Wonder Pack 2.

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Also, the order of continuity in which they ANNOUNCE releases has little to do with the actual order in which products are made or prepared. i stand by my idea that all of civ 5 was made up front with the idea to sell 1/3 the game up front at full price then the other 2/3 of the game in small mini-installments.

With warlords i believed sternly that it was made the same time vanilla civ4 was released and plucked out to be sold seperately. its like they make a great game and start parting it out. BTS i am convinced was made in response to the community reception of civ4.

So, when the next DLC items - Celts - Carthage - Zulu and Wonder Pack 2 and 3 and Complete edition 2 and 3 come out, its all part of the plan.
 
I really can't wait for carthage. It would make a Mediterranean map actually fair, with spain, france, rome, carthage, egypt, turkey, greece, and the Phoenician and italian city states.
 
Also, the order of continuity in which they ANNOUNCE releases has little to do with the actual order in which products are made or prepared. i stand by my idea that all of civ 5 was made up front with the idea to sell 1/3 the game up front at full price then the other 2/3 of the game in small mini-installments.

This is inconsistent with what we've been told by people with knowledge who are not employed by Firaxis. It would also imply a much greater lead time for Civ5 then anyone has previously indicated where most game design ideas and game code would have been finalized from the beginning if the artists were going have enough time to make all these things up front.
 
more likely they were all made about the same time, and pre-planned to be released in this way so that your cousin can still buy some DLC, and many games are following a model where they release complete edition followed by 4 more DLC items or so and another complete edition or goty edition or something. its to make sure there is no one copy of the game you can buy to get it all. i say over 2012, they will release Carthage and Celts for sure and either Kongo or Zulu.

Then, they will release GRAND FINAL EDITION CIV 5 - and a month later, they will release Wonder Pack 2.

Edit --

Also, the order of continuity in which they ANNOUNCE releases has little to do with the actual order in which products are made or prepared. i stand by my idea that all of civ 5 was made up front with the idea to sell 1/3 the game up front at full price then the other 2/3 of the game in small mini-installments.

I doubt this was true of all the DLC - some of it, such as Korea, has tended to only be released in expansions in other Civ games - but there's something very incongruous about releasing the Danish as DLC when there's a Viking sequence in the intro movie. Spain was a glaring omission from the main release. And the Wonders of the Ancient World DLC must surely have been prepared or planned when the game was released - they can't have intended a Civilization release which would permanently drop three of the classical Wonders. Whether they were held over deliberately or the game reached its deadline before this content was ready is an open question.

I do however remain annoyed that there were *no* scenarios packaged with the base game, and only the Mongol one added free of charge later (and with no scenario for Babylon). Sure, the scenarios are extremely well-done and likely took a lot more time and effort to create than their equivalents in earlier Civ games, but there should have been at least a few in the standard game.

So, when the next DLC items - Celts - Carthage - Zulu and Wonder Pack 2 and 3 and Complete edition 2 and 3 come out, its all part of the plan.

Is there any reason to believe these will be the next, or even future, releases? Zulus I'd rather not see back - they have historical precedent in Civ games, but they've been quite reasonably downplayed in later versions (as expansion content or, now, apparently absent), and I'd rather the game focus on genuine civilizations rather than a tribal group led by a single charismatic - their cities are named after battlefields because the real Zulu had no cities, and they were even given a fictional leader option in one version of the game because the Zulu 'nation' didn't outlive Shaka. Adding the Malinese and, now, the Songhai in their place is more relevant thematically and more representative of African civilization.

Celts and Carthage I could do with or without - Celts again aren't a coherent civilization (then again, nor is Polynesia). But overall I'd rather see civs that have interesting scenario options and the opportunity to add new areas as maps. There already are maps for Europe, the Mediterranean and the British Isles. I've voted before to add the Merina, and quite apart from anything else a Madagascar map would be new and interesting. Several scenario options - including uniting the island or playing the French and British against one another to maintain independence in the 19th Century - would be available.
 
historical precedent is 100% of my reasoning, i knew and guessed every DLC and i believe these will be the final round.

however, there is a great kongo mod, so i see the possibility they might release kongo instead of zulu as they did with songhai and khmer. they love redundancy. One hope i have is they disprove me and release an expansion with about 8 new civs, 2 or so scenarios and a flush of content that should have been there from the start.

another flaw in the DLC system is the scenarios are all badly done and they don't build on each other. so if they released Carthage and Celts expansion pack, they wouldn't let this DLC install further benefits into any of the scenarios you purchased. If they release a civ like the maya, they probably wouldn't let it update the colonization scenario to include them.

now, if they had each DLC in some way build into the depth of the other DLC's, i wouldn't be complainig so much.

edit - then again, i could be wrong as they release an official civ 5 developer made, cheapened crappy version of an existing mod as an expansion or DLC item.
 
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