Civ-specific Great People
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AbsintheRed
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Could you say a few words why would you include them as great spies?
I didn't find too much info, and don't really know any of them besides Bontenbal
AbsintheRed
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Expanded russian list.
Comments?
We really need more scholars
Comments?
We really need more scholars
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AbsintheRed
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The Byzantine list
As you can see, it could use quite a few additional names
Any ideas?
As you can see, it could use quite a few additional names
Any ideas?
Spoiler :
AbsintheRed
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The English list is more or less ready, besides the engineers
Any comments/ideas?
Any comments/ideas?
Spoiler :
A mod doing this was made a while ago, there are a bunch of names (including many already mentioned) maybe worth checking out,
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=199344
there are also a lot of female GP names here, definitely worth putting in,
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=349231&page=6
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=199344
there are also a lot of female GP names here, definitely worth putting in,
http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=349231&page=6
Some English great engineers can be found on http://www.engineering-timelines.com/who/who.asp
AbsintheRed
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Pffff
How come I didn't know about that mod before?
How come I didn't know about that mod before?
merijn_v1
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Could you say a few words why would you include them as great spies?
I didn't find too much info, and don't really know any of them besides Bontenbal
They aren't actually spies like Mata Hari. I couldn't find any real Dutch spies of that time, so I put some feared murders in the list. (I think they are in the same category as Balthasar Gerard, the murderer of Willem van Oranje, which is a great spy in the vanilla game)
I know they aren't the best we can have, but I don't know better ones.
AbsintheRed
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Do you have a full version of Gaius Octavius' mod? It seems it's lost because of the CFC site hack a couple years ago.
The latest version I could find is the 2001 names version in the OP
Also, I found your post in the thread, which made me wondering:
Maybe you have a personal version, with all your additions included from that post? Maybe the female GPs too from SaibotLieh?
I'm afraid I don't, but I think the 2001 names version was about as far as it went, I'd be happy to dig up some more names for you if you would like though, name the civ/nation/people and it would be my pleasure
AbsintheRed
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No prob, I'm already more or less through both the 2001 names version of the mod, and your additions
Checking the background information for all those great people - and of course all the others I can find/think of, as well as the already mentioned ones in this thread - is a really slow process
I literally spent most of my free time in the last week with this
And to be honest, I had pretty much free time last week
I'd be happy to dig up some more names for you if you would like though, name the civ/nation/people and it would be my pleasure
Sounds great, thanks!
There will be many remaining gaps, so every improvement is more than welcomed...
AbsintheRed
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Looks good, thank you!
Still not finished running through all the GPs from the mod, but I'm pretty close
Will post the lists when I'm ready
And then you can jump in for some gap-filling, if you would like to
Still not finished running through all the GPs from the mod, but I'm pretty close
Will post the lists when I'm ready
And then you can jump in for some gap-filling, if you would like to
AbsintheRed
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I'm up to 1500+ medieval names now
One last big database to go through, then I will post everything here civ by civ, up for discussion before being added
Anway, if everything goes well, this is soon happening to the mod
If you (or anyone else) are still up to it, the 3 civs with the fewest names: Austria, Bulgaria and Kiev
Austria:
prophet/theologian:
artist/chronicler: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Joesph Haydn, Johann Paul Schor
scholar/scientist: Wolfgang Laz, Georg Tannstetter, Andreas Stoberl, Georg Joachim Rheticus
merchant/explorer: Johann Grueber
architect/inventor: Johann Lukas von Hildebrandt, Jakob Prandtauer, Josef Munggenast, Matthias Steinl, Johann Bernhard Fischer von Erlach
general: Eugen von Savoyen, Albrecht von Wallenstein, Johann von Aldringen, Sigebert Heister, Georg von Frundsberg
spy/diplomat: Klemens von Metternich
Bulgaria:
GP: Saint Clement of Ohrid, St. Cyril, St. Methodius, Saint Naum
GA: Naum of Preslav
GS: Joan Ekzarh (John Exarch), Gregory Tsamblak
GM:
GE: Nikola Fichev(late), Andrey Damyanov (late)
GG: Kaloyan the Romanslayer, Krum the Horrible, Omurtag, Presian, Ivan Asen, Constantine Bodin
GD:
Kiev:
GP: Vladimir Sviatoslavich, Saint Cyril of Turaw, Euphrosyne of Polatsk, Saint Olga of Kiev, Theodosius of Kiev, Isidore of Kiev, Saint Kuksha
GA: Maksym Berezovsky, Nestor the Chronicler
GS:
GM:
GE:
GG: Roman Mstislavich, Sviatoslav I Igorevich
GD: Aleksandra Lisowska (Polish? Ottoman?)
One last big database to go through, then I will post everything here civ by civ, up for discussion before being added
Anway, if everything goes well, this is soon happening to the mod
I'd be happy to dig up some more names for you if you would like though, name the civ/nation/people and it would be my pleasure
If you (or anyone else) are still up to it, the 3 civs with the fewest names: Austria, Bulgaria and Kiev
Austria:
prophet/theologian:
artist/chronicler: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Joesph Haydn, Johann Paul Schor
scholar/scientist: Wolfgang Laz, Georg Tannstetter, Andreas Stoberl, Georg Joachim Rheticus
merchant/explorer: Johann Grueber
architect/inventor: Johann Lukas von Hildebrandt, Jakob Prandtauer, Josef Munggenast, Matthias Steinl, Johann Bernhard Fischer von Erlach
general: Eugen von Savoyen, Albrecht von Wallenstein, Johann von Aldringen, Sigebert Heister, Georg von Frundsberg
spy/diplomat: Klemens von Metternich
Bulgaria:
GP: Saint Clement of Ohrid, St. Cyril, St. Methodius, Saint Naum
GA: Naum of Preslav
GS: Joan Ekzarh (John Exarch), Gregory Tsamblak
GM:
GE: Nikola Fichev(late), Andrey Damyanov (late)
GG: Kaloyan the Romanslayer, Krum the Horrible, Omurtag, Presian, Ivan Asen, Constantine Bodin
GD:
Kiev:
GP: Vladimir Sviatoslavich, Saint Cyril of Turaw, Euphrosyne of Polatsk, Saint Olga of Kiev, Theodosius of Kiev, Isidore of Kiev, Saint Kuksha
GA: Maksym Berezovsky, Nestor the Chronicler
GS:
GM:
GE:
GG: Roman Mstislavich, Sviatoslav I Igorevich
GD: Aleksandra Lisowska (Polish? Ottoman?)
Austria:
GP: Frederic Nausea, Samson Wertheimer, Rupert of Salzburg, Berthold of Garsten, Agnes Blannbekin, Adalbero of Würzburg, St. Sturm, Engelbert of Admont, Abraham a Sancta Clara
GA: Franz Schubert, Ava, Dietmar von Aist, Reinmar von Hagenau, Walther von der Vogelweide, Seifried Helbling, Johann Beer
Here are a few just to get started!
GP: Frederic Nausea, Samson Wertheimer, Rupert of Salzburg, Berthold of Garsten, Agnes Blannbekin, Adalbero of Würzburg, St. Sturm, Engelbert of Admont, Abraham a Sancta Clara
GA: Franz Schubert, Ava, Dietmar von Aist, Reinmar von Hagenau, Walther von der Vogelweide, Seifried Helbling, Johann Beer
Here are a few just to get started!
AbsintheRed
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simplicissimus
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Austria:
GP: Melchior Khlesl, Georg Scherer, Georg Eder
GA: Christoph Willibald Gluck, Marx Augustin (legendary bagpipeplayer who fell drunk into a massgrave during the plague of 1679 and didn´t get infected - rather for fun than a serious artist )
GG: Leopold Philipp Montecuccoli, Octavio Piccolomini, Leopold Joseph von Daun
Spy: Walter Deveroux (scottish mercenary who assassinated Wallenstein if you find that suitable),
Scientist: Gerard van Swieten,
GE: Hans Puchsbaum
More later, thats what just came to my mind at the moment
GP: Melchior Khlesl, Georg Scherer, Georg Eder
GA: Christoph Willibald Gluck, Marx Augustin (legendary bagpipeplayer who fell drunk into a massgrave during the plague of 1679 and didn´t get infected - rather for fun than a serious artist
)GG: Leopold Philipp Montecuccoli, Octavio Piccolomini, Leopold Joseph von Daun
Spy: Walter Deveroux (scottish mercenary who assassinated Wallenstein if you find that suitable),
Scientist: Gerard van Swieten,
GE: Hans Puchsbaum
More later, thats what just came to my mind at the moment
AbsintheRed
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I also did some small reading for Austria
Currently (without the names collected by 702, 3 posts above):
GP: Melchior Khlesl, Georg Scherer
GA: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Joesph Haydn, Johann Paul Schor, Christoph Willibald Gluck, Marx Augustin
GS: Wolfgang Laz, Georg Tannstetter, Andreas Stoberl, Georg Joachim Rheticus, Gerard van Swieten, Herman of Carinthia
GM: Johann Grueber
GE: Johann Lukas von Hildebrandt, Jakob Prandtauer, Josef Munggenast, Matthias Steinl, Johann Bernhard Fischer von Erlach, Hans Puchsbaum
GG: Eugen von Savoyen, Albrecht von Wallenstein, Johann von Aldringen, Sigebert Heister, Georg von Frundsberg, Leopold Philip Montecuccoli, Leopold Joseph von Daun
GD: Klemens von Metternich, Gaspar Graziani
Any help on Bulgaria or Kiev?
Currently (without the names collected by 702, 3 posts above):
GP: Melchior Khlesl, Georg Scherer
GA: Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Joesph Haydn, Johann Paul Schor, Christoph Willibald Gluck, Marx Augustin
GS: Wolfgang Laz, Georg Tannstetter, Andreas Stoberl, Georg Joachim Rheticus, Gerard van Swieten, Herman of Carinthia
GM: Johann Grueber
GE: Johann Lukas von Hildebrandt, Jakob Prandtauer, Josef Munggenast, Matthias Steinl, Johann Bernhard Fischer von Erlach, Hans Puchsbaum
GG: Eugen von Savoyen, Albrecht von Wallenstein, Johann von Aldringen, Sigebert Heister, Georg von Frundsberg, Leopold Philip Montecuccoli, Leopold Joseph von Daun
GD: Klemens von Metternich, Gaspar Graziani
Any help on Bulgaria or Kiev?
simplicissimus
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After a little research:
GM: Samuel Oppenheimer, Maximilian Thaddäus von Egger, Sebald Pögl der Ältere as well as his son Sebald Pögl der Jüngere
GE: Franz Anton Pilgram
GD: Siegmund von Herberstein, Friedrich Heinrich von Seckendorff, Johann Joseph von Khevenhüller-Metsch, Wenzel Eusebius von Lobkowicz
Who is Gaspar Graziani? Do you mean him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaspar_Graziani and if: I can´t find any connections with Austria or do you know more?
How many names do you need/want for every civilization?
GM: Samuel Oppenheimer, Maximilian Thaddäus von Egger, Sebald Pögl der Ältere as well as his son Sebald Pögl der Jüngere
GE: Franz Anton Pilgram
GD: Siegmund von Herberstein, Friedrich Heinrich von Seckendorff, Johann Joseph von Khevenhüller-Metsch, Wenzel Eusebius von Lobkowicz
Who is Gaspar Graziani? Do you mean him: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaspar_Graziani and if: I can´t find any connections with Austria or do you know more?
How many names do you need/want for every civilization?
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