Civ-specific Great People

[AbsintheRed]

Great work, thanks!
Will get back on the Great People too after the map is ready

 

[AbsintheRed]

Sweden, France, Spain, Dutch, Portugal, Cordoba, Burgundy, Italy, Hungary are ready
Someone care to take Germany/Austria, England and Arabia? They should be fairly easy
I will look into Poland, but some help is always appreciated
3Miro, are you up for Bulgaria and Byzantium? You usually take those
The hardest ones will be Lithuania, Kiev, the Ottomans and the Norse IMO
Norse can probably use some of the Sweden GPs, while the Ottomans the Arabians though
Muscovy also seems hard to me, but only because I don't have too much knowledge on that area

 

[Michael Vick]

Sweden, France, Spain, Dutch, Portugal, Cordoba, Burgundy, Italy, Hungary are ready
Someone care to take Germany/Austria, England and Arabia? They should be fairly easy
I will look into Poland, but some help is always appreciated
3Miro, are you up for Bulgaria and Byzantium? You usually take those
The hardest ones will be Lithuania, Kiev, the Ottomans and the Norse IMO
Norse can probably use some of the Sweden GPs, while the Ottomans the Arabians though
Muscovy also seems hard to me, but only because I don't have too much knowledge on that area

I'll get Arabia, I'm familiar with those after doing the Cordobans.

Are you making the Italian GPs unique, or pooling them?

 

[3Miro]

3Miro, are you up for Bulgaria and Byzantium? You usually take those

I will do Bulgaria and I will see what I can do about Byzantium.

 

[civ_king]

I'll get Arabia, I'm familiar with those after doing the Cordobans.

Are you making the Italian GPs unique, or pooling them?

I think Italy should be pooled since Florence, Rome and Pisa are ambiguous plus depending on who was richer the GP could have all been different

 

[AbsintheRed]

I think Italy should be pooled since Florence, Rome and Pisa are ambiguous plus depending on who was richer the GP could have all been different

Yes, the Italian civs should definitely be pooled, I always intended to do that

 

[AbsintheRed]

I'll get Arabia, I'm familiar with those after doing the Cordobans.

I will do Bulgaria and I will see what I can do about Byzantium.

Sounds great, thanks!

 

[Alandroid]

Hello. I'm from Moscow. I can help you with Russian great people. It can be good for you.
Russian (Moscow) people:
Prophet: Vladimir Svyatoy (Vladimir the Great), Sergiy Radonezhskiy(Sergius of Radonezh), Serafim Sarovskiy(Seraphim of Sarov), Kirill Belozerskiy (Cyril of Beloozero)
Artist: Andrey Rublev, Daniil Chyorny, Maksim Grek, Gavriil Derzhavin
Scientist: Nestor, Ivan Fyodorov, Mikhail Lomonosov
Merchant: Afanasiy Nikitin, Yermak Timofeyevich
Engineer: Postnik Yakovlev, Anton Fryazin, Vasiliy Yermolin
General: Aleksandr Nevskiy (can be Prophet), Dmitriy Donskoy(can be Prophet), Daniil Shchenya, Mikhail Vorotynskiy, Mikhail Skopin-Shuyskiy, Kuzma Minin, Dmitriy Pozharskiy
Spy: Ivan Susanin ( ^_^ )

 

[AbsintheRed]

Sounds great, thanks!
Keep in mind that we prefer to use pre-1800 Great Persons, altough I'm not against adding a couple from the 19th century, if there are too few otherwise
Also, could you help in the russain and kievan city name maps?

 

[al Iskandari]

A bit of protest.

St. Prince Vladimir the Great was Kievan. And Ivan Susanin is, probably, a counterspy patriot rather than a spy.

In the reign of Peter I there was a Russian Jew who was a splendid diplomat and a talented spy. His name was Abram Veselovsky. You can take him or Count Tolstoy as a great spy.

Besides, it would be better to write not "Vorotynskiy" but "Vorotynsky" and so on. Not "-iy" but "-y".

 

[AbsintheRed]

You can write a full list for Muscovy and Kievan Rus if you want to
Btw, I usually double check the names and the spelling before adding to my main list

 

[AbsintheRed]

I'll get Arabia, I'm familiar with those after doing the Cordobans.

It seems we are back on this, and if Muscovy and Kien is taken care of, only a couple civs remains
Soooo, could you look into the Arabian names when you have some time?
Also, someone willing to do a full English list?

 

[Michael Vick]

Scholars

Ibn Khaldun
Al-Kindi
Muḥammad ibn Mūsā al-Khwārizmī
Al-Razi
Abū al-Wafā' Būzjānī
Abū Rayḥān al-Bīrūnī
Al-Farabi
Abū ʿAlī al-Ḥusayn ibn ʿAbd Allāh ibn Sīnā
Abū Kāmil Shujāʿ ibn Aslam
Ibn al-Nafis
Abu'l-Hasan al-Uqlidisi
Abu Nasr Mansur
Alhazen
Johannitius
Ahmad ibn Yusuf
Ibn Tahir al-Baghdadi
Samauʼal Al-Maghribī
Nasir al-Din al-Tusi
Sharaf al-Dīn al-Ṭūsī
Abd al-Latif al-Baghdadi
Ibn Abi Usaibia
Abu al-Qasim al-Zahrawi
Ali ibn Sahl Rabban al-Tabari
Al-Jahiz
Ali ibn al-'Abbas al-Majusi
Al-Asma'i
Qutb al-Din al-Shirazi

Engineers

Al-Jazari
Sind ibn Ali
Al-Karaji
Omar Khayyam
Ibn al-Shatir
Mu'ayyad al-Din al-'Urdi
Al-Kaysarani

Theologians

Ali
Ja'far al-Sadiq
Abu Hanifah
Aisha
Khadija
Umar
Uthman ibn Affan
Saeed bin Zaid
Wasil ibn Ata
Al-Ghazali
Maimonides
Al-Suyuti
Rabia Basri
Saint John of Damascus (Do we want Christians?)

Also, Muhammad himself, maybe?

Generals

Khalid ibn al-Walid
Maslamah ibn Abd al-Malik
Muhammad bin Qasim
Al-Abbas ibn al-Ma'mun
Nasr ibn Sayyar
'Amr ibn al-'As
Sulayman ibn Hisham
Mu'awiyah ibn Hisham
Afshin
Al-Muthanna ibn Haritha
Al-Abbas ibn al-Walid

Spies

Artists

Al-Mutanabbi
Al-Khansa
Safi al-Din al-Urmawi
Abu Nuwas
Al-Farazdaq
Jarir ibn Atiyah
Abu al-Faraj al-Isfahani
Abu al-Alahijah
Ibrahim Al-Mausili
Al-Wasiti
Waddah al-Yaman
Mansur Al-Hallaj
Bashar ibn Burd

Merchants

Ahmad ibn Mājid
Sulaiman Al Mahri
Suleiman al-Tajir
Ahmad ibn Fadlan
Ahmad ibn Rustah
Ibn Hawqal
Sharif Ali
Shulama

 

[Alandroid]

A bit of protest.

St. Prince Vladimir the Great was Kievan. And Ivan Susanin is, probably, a counterspy patriot rather than a spy.

In the reign of Peter I there was a Russian Jew who was a splendid diplomat and a talented spy. His name was Abram Veselovsky. You can take him or Count Tolstoy as a great spy.

Besides, it would be better to write not "Vorotynskiy" but "Vorotynsky" and so on. Not "-iy" but "-y".

I writed just russian people. I didn't share Muscovy and Kievan people.
Ivan Susanin is a joke . I think Abram Veselosky and Peter Tolstoy can be Great Spies, I agree with you.
Sorry with "iy". I thought that we must write russian transcription.
And sorry for my English.

 

[urban]

If no one has started, I've started combing wiki for Lithuanians. One question: I feel we should include current belorus in the group. Also jews who lived in the area. Does this sound right to people?

 

[urban]

Surely not definitive for Lithuania, but:

Artists:
Kristijonas Donelaitis (also prophet?)
Martynas Mažvydas
Antanas Strazdas (18-19c)
Mikołaj Hussowczyk

Prophet
Saint Kazimieras (share w/ Poland?)
Vilna Gaon
St. Anthony, St John and St. Eustathius of Vilna (maybe not - they were Muscovite missionaries to Lithuania
Athanasius of Brest-Litovsk
Euphrosyne of Polatsk
Josaphat Kuntsevych
Aryeh Leib ben Asher Gunzberg

Scientist
Konstantinas Sirvydas
Symon Budny
Salomon Maimon

Merchant
Francysk Skaryna
Berek Joselewicz? wiki says merchant

Engineer
Laurynas Gucevičius
Teodor Narbutt

General
Lew Sapieha
Mindaugas
Vykintas
Vytautas

Spy
Tadas Blinda? Robin hood figure
Faddey Venediktovich Bulgarin? propagandist, (18-19c)

 

[AbsintheRed]

Urban, did you include Belorus medieval people in the end?
Btw, what do you guys think about having the same merged pool for Poland and Lithuania, if we couldn't come up with enough names for either of them?
Would it be off the charts?

 

[urban]

Urban, did you include Belorus medieval people in the end?
Btw, what do you guys think about having the same merged pool for Poland and Lithuania, if we couldn't come up with enough names for either of them?
Would it be off the charts?

I did look to Belarus as well.

I think it would be cool to have separate, and have some that are in both (would it be possible to make it so the same name isn't used twice in a game? Does it matter? Do any players pay attention to other civs' great people?) That being said, I think merged would be fine. And less work.

 

[iOnlySignIn]

Ottomans (incomplete; just a start)

== Scientists ==
Salah al-Din Musa Pasha

== Engineers ==
Atik Sinan
Hezarfen Ahmed Celebi
Lagari Hasan Celebi
Mimar Sinan

== Artists ==
Yunus Emre
Yusuf Has Hacip
Fuzuli/Muhammad bin Suleyman
Baki/Mahmud Abdulbaki
Nef'i

== Merchants ==
Evliya Celebi
Piri Reis

== Generals ==
Selim I
Mehmed II
Hayreddin Barbarossa
Kurtoglu Hizir Reis
Salih Reis
Murat Reis the Younger
Kara Mustafa Pasha

 

[AbsintheRed]

Can you give me a link to Baki?
I have no idea who was he