Civ V Cracked Already

[valrond]

Assassins Creed 2 held for about 3 weeks, now thats a success. 3 days is not much, comparing to that.

No, it wasn't. It prevented me from buying it. Not only that game, but Splinter Cell Conviction and Silent Hunter V. I own the original Assassin's Creed, Splinter Cell 1-4, and Silent Hunter III and 4, but that stupid internet always on DRM from Ubisoft only got a no sell.

 

[Lars_Domus]

Steam is not about piracy ... thats just a boogeyman they trot out to get people to use it out of fear of even more restrictive (and equally useless) DRMs.

What it is about is expanding their share of distribution and, at the same time, gaining free marketing information on your buying habits, playing habits, etc ... not to mention gaining a captive audience for marketing other products.

You sir, are a gentleman and a scholar.

Much be why releasing Civ on Steam has been so controversial.
Maybe the "added value" is useless crap and the "minimal annoyance" is quite grating for a lot of people, in fact.

Steam is simply a useless layer of mandatory software that is added on your computer, restrict your use of a product, act as a spyware and trumps your rights.

You too.

 

[Tarkhan]

Expected, honestly. Pirates can crack Steam, just like anything else. There is NO system or DRM scheme that is 100% uncrackable.

There are some here who see Steam as purely DRM and nothing else, and for them, it is useless. For me, it's got a lot of other features I really like. For one, downloading my games on other PC's and not having to fool around with discs.

For me, the net activation is a price worth paying to not have to dig through a mess of DVDs every time I want to play a game. I do enough of that on my consoles.

 

[bernlin2000]

I want to start this post by saying that I am not a pirate and I believe that it is important to buy the games you enjoy.

However, I think it is very interesting to note that Civ V has already been cracked by the pirates. This comes after a lot of work to make Civ V's copy-protection difficult to crack. I just think it is interesting that gaming companies will go to such extremes to protect their games (often hindering the legitimate gamer's experience) when they are still cracked in a little under a week.

So my question is, why even have protection? It is never going to stop the pirates, and it usually just leads to unnecessary hoops for the actual gamer to go through.

Discuss

Copy protection is for people who don't have the ability to crack games (and don't know where to go to get cracked games). If there's no protection, there's no barrier to just copying your CD and giving one to all your friends. I only like copy protection because I like video games, which cost a lot of money to develop. I don't want to lose AAA titles because people aren't willing to pay for good games made my good companies (and pirate the crappy ones ). It never even crossed my mind to illegally download Civ5: I respect the work the company has done in the past, and I know they'll earn my money (especially with a few more patches...). Using steam is about the easiest and strongest copy protection you can get at the moment, short of draconian stardock-like measures. The game is integrated into steam, so I would be very wary of using a bootleg version: it's likely that it can be detected and you could get your account banned.

 

[Taalen]

Once again the pirates get a better product than the paying customer, and the game lost sales. A shame the publisher didn't listen to their customers and drop the Steam requirement.

 

[Akka]

There are some here who see Steam as purely DRM and nothing else, and for them, it is useless. For me, it's got a lot of other features I really like. For one, downloading my games on other PC's and not having to fool around with discs.

For me, the net activation is a price worth paying to not have to dig through a mess of DVDs every time I want to play a game. I do enough of that on my consoles.

Impulse does all of this, and without the annoying parts.

 

[Fistalis]

Impulse does all of this, and without the annoying parts.

Direct 2 Drive does as well. Which is my preferred Digital distribution service and will continue to be as long as steam requires me to have it running to launch a game and resets activation when changing hardware. Off line mode is pointless if i have to connect to steam again everytime i decide to plug in a new piece of shiny hardware.

As to to the crack.. ya i saw torrents on Moderator Action: *snip* for it on like the 24th. I smell a spore repeat. People who dislike steam but love civ are gonna pirate it to kingdom come.

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[Kruelgor]

I want to start this post by saying that I am not a pirate and I believe that it is important to buy the games you enjoy.

However, I think it is very interesting to note that Civ V has already been cracked by the pirates. This comes after a lot of work to make Civ V's copy-protection difficult to crack. I just think it is interesting that gaming companies will go to such extremes to protect their games (often hindering the legitimate gamer's experience) when they are still cracked in a little under a week.

So my question is, why even have protection? It is never going to stop the pirates, and it usually just leads to unnecessary hoops for the actual gamer to go through.

Discuss

The purpose of anti-theft measures is not to totally 100% stop cyber theft (aka pirating), but to reduce it. If the measures in place cause 10% of normal customers not to buy the game, but reduces the pirating by 60% and there is a net positive gain in revenue then it was worth it.

 

[Deathstar]

The purpose of anti-theft measures is not to totally 100% stop cyber theft (aka pirating), but to reduce it. If the measures in place cause 10% of normal customers not to buy the game, but reduces the pirating by 60% and there is a net positive gain in revenue then it was worth it.

Steam doesn't stop people from pirating a game, but lets say for the sake of argument that it did, and by 60%! Where is the "net positive gain in revenue" coming from?

 

[Kruelgor]

Steam doesn't stop people from pirating a game, but lets say for the sake of argument that it did, and by 60%! Where is the "net positive gain in revenue" coming from?

Because a portion of that 60% would actually buy the game.

 

[Pedro P]

very deserved

I hate this Steam trash

 

[HamTard]

Direct 2 Drive does as well. Which is my preferred Digital distribution service and will continue to be as long as steam requires me to have it running to launch a game and resets activation when changing hardware. Off line mode is pointless if i have to connect to steam again everytime i decide to plug in a new piece of shiny hardware.

As to to the crack.. ya i saw torrents on Moderator Action: *snip* for it on like the 24th. I smell a spore repeat. People who dislike steam but love civ are gonna pirate it to kingdom come.

Come on, that's an outright lie.

People stole Spore because they wanted to play it but didn't want to pay for it, plain and simple. If they were really against DRM, they would not buy it AND not steal it. Not liking the terms of sale is never justification for theft.

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[Adam7Eight]

Spore isn't even worth pirating. That game sucks.

Arguably the biggest letdown in gaming history...

 

[Fistalis]

Come on, that's an outright lie.

People stole Spore because they wanted to play it but didn't want to pay for it, plain and simple. If they were really against DRM, they would not buy it AND not steal it. Not liking the terms of sale is never justification for theft.

No one claimed it was justification i simply pointed out its probably going to happen. . Spore had limited installs at launch and no way to reduce the install counter as well which led people who had purchased it to pirate it once they reached their install limits... IE once you installed it X of number times there was NO way to install it ever again. Point is that many people will buy it.. dislike steam then download a pirate version after the fact simply to avoid steam.

 

[HamTard]

No one claimed it was justification i simply pointed out its probably going to happen. And Spore had limited installs at launch which drove many people who purchased the game to actually pirate it. Spore had limited installs at launch and no way to as well which led people who had purchased it to pirate it once they reached their install limits... and were valid in doing so seeing as at launch you couldn't remove your install to reduce your install limit. IE once you installed it X of number times there was NO way to install it ever again. Point is that many people will buy it.. dislike steam then pirate it after the fact simply to avoid steam.

Steam doesn't limit installs. As for the number of people who buy the game, then play the cracked copy to avoid Steam, they will be far outnumbered by people who simply want a free game.

 

[HamTard]

Spore isn't even worth pirating. That game sucks.

Arguably the biggest letdown in gaming history...

Spore was definitely a huge letdown, but it didn't suck and I enjoyed it for around 50 hours. My only regret is that I bought the boxed version and not the Steam version, so now I have to keep the disc and hope the serial key sticker doesn't rub off.

 

[Fistalis]

Steam doesn't limit installs. As for the number of people who buy the game, then play the cracked copy to avoid Steam, they will be far outnumbered by people who simply want a free game.

Never said it did.. lol why do you keep implying i said things i didn't.
As for how many pirates to avoid steam vs free game.. well never know so its pointless to speculate.

 

[HamTard]

Sorry, I just wanted to clarify that it doesn't limit installs.

What's nice about Steam is that when the Mac version of Civ V comes out, we should get it for free via SteamPlay since any game on Steam that has a PC and Mac version, you get both if you buy one of them.

 

[White Elk]

I smell a spore repeat. People who dislike steam but love civ are gonna pirate it to kingdom come.

Come on, that's an outright lie.

People stole Spore because they wanted to play it but didn't want to pay for it, plain and simple. If they were really against DRM, they would not buy it AND not steal it. Not liking the terms of sale is never justification for theft.

If the DRM is absolutely unacceptable, but the game is highly desired, it seems to me that there will indeed be people who seek a DRM free version... people who would otherwise have been happy to pay for the game if not for the DRM/distribution complications.

You speak in absolutes as if you are omnipotent. Your so confident in your opinion that you call someone with a differing view a liar. I find this hard to understand. One reason being that I am one who was tempted to steal the game so I could play it. I was set on buying it before learning of steam. I don't accept steams methods, but I very much love the Civ series. Now I won't be stealing the game, but man was I tempted! Never before have I been tempted to steal software. Yet if I knew of a certainty that Firaxis would accept anonymous postal payment outside of the established distribution method, I would most definitely acquire a cracked copy.

 

[Fistalis]

Sorry, I just wanted to clarify that it doesn't limit installs.

What's nice about Steam is that when the Mac version of Civ V comes out, we should get it for free via SteamPlay since any game on Steam that has a PC and Mac version, you get both if you buy one of them.

Thats actually the first thing someone has posted as a good thing about steam that isnt offered by a less intrusive Digital distributer. I don't own a mac but can deff. see how that would be a plus for those who own both.