Civ V nations suggestions

[Cannae]

In this thread people can post what nations they think should be added to the next game in the CIV series. So anyway here's the general list of what could be added IMHO. This of course is a general list and I am not expecting for all this to happen within the span of one game or expansion pack. I also made this thread because I had suggested the idea earlier that we create sub sections for the CIV V requests so that the threads don't get as cluttered.

North America
USA
Sioux
Iroquois
Canada
Haida
Seminoles
Navajo
Inuit

Mesoamerica
Aztecs
Mayan
Olmec
Taxacalans

Western Europe
England
France
Germany
Dutch
Spain
Portuguese
Viking
Celts
Holy Roman Empire

Southern Europe
Greece
Byzantine
Rome
Illyria
Crete
Etruscans

Central/Eastern Europe
Russia
Poland
Huns
Goths
Vandals
Bulgaria
Lithuania

Middle East
Ottoman
Arabs
Egypt
India
Sumerian
Carthage
Babylon
Persia
Israel

East Asia
China
Japan
Mongolia
Korea
Khmer
Indonesia

Africa
Mali
Ethiopian
Zulu
Congo
Berbers
Malagasy

Oceania
Maoris
Australia
Aborigines
Polynesia

South America
Inca
Tupi
Grand Colombia
Brazil
Caribs
Chile
Argentina

 

[Rotty]

In this thread people can post what nations they think should be added to the next game in the CIV series. So anyway here's the general list of what could be added IMHO. This of course is a general list and I am not expecting for all this to happen within the span of one game or expansion pack. I also made this thread because I had suggested the idea earlier that we create sub sections for the CIV V requests so that the threads don't get as cluttered.

North America
USA
Sioux
Iroquois
Canada
Haida
Seminoles
Navajo
Inuit

Considering that that the entire game of Civilization revolves around cities, you seriously think it should have the Inuit as a playable civilization? That's even worse than having the Sioux.

Germany
Dutch
Viking
Holy Roman Empire
Goths
Vandals

No... just no.

Greece
Byzantine

Why not have classical and medieval versions of every major civilization as different civs while we're at it?

Rather than a giant laundry list of redundant and slightly different nationalities, let's start with the basic premise of the game: taking a nation from one neolithic settlement to world domination or the Space Age. Which civs make the most sense starting like that? I would say:

Egypt
Sumeria
India
China
Olmecs

Furthermore, what nations do we know "have to be" in Civ 5 whether it makes any sense to have them starting in the neolithic or not, because they've been in the initial releases of the previous games?

Persians
Greeks
Romans
Russians
Germans
French
English
Americans
Japanese
Aztecs

That leaves probably 1-3 slots for other civilizations, considering that Civ 3 shipped with 16 and Civ 4 with 18. So who should fill those slots?

 

[Cannae]

Considering that that the entire game of Civilization revolves around cities, you seriously think it should have the Inuit as a playable civilization? That's even worse than having the Sioux.

I was just wanting to give a variety of Amerindian civs. Yes, the Sioux did have cities and agriculture before the introduction of the horse.

No... just no.

You know you said no to civs that came with the civ 4 vanilla and expansion pack and the one I put on the list already.

Why not have classical and medieval versions of every major civilization as different civs while we're at it?

Some of those nations did have a good amount of importance by affecting the Medieval/Classical ages and thus are own.

Rather than a giant laundry list of redundant and slightly different nationalities, let's start with the basic premise of the game: taking a nation from one neolithic settlement to world domination or the Space Age. Which civs make the most sense starting like that? I would say:

To you these may be redundant and may be true to some extent but to myself it's list that should be done. It's nice to have a good variety of civs. About the basic premise part... well thank you for enlightening me, I feel much wiser.

Egypt
Sumeria
India
China
Olmecs

I guess I can agree but It's nice to break the tradition sometimes.

Furthermore, what nations do we know "have to be" in Civ 5 whether it makes any sense to have them starting in the neolithic or not, because they've been in the initial releases of the previous games?

Persians
Greeks
Romans
Russians
Germans
French
English
Americans
Japanese
Aztecs

Once again I can agree but It's nice to break the tradition sometimes.

That leaves probably 1-3 slots for other civilizations, considering that Civ 3 shipped with 16 and Civ 4 with 18. So who should fill those slots?

That amount I assume would increase due to better machines, computers and ect.

 

[Dero Zero]

I would want to separate the Vikings as 3 nations: Norse, Swedish And Finnish. Those are already done, in the Road To War WW2 Scenarios.

 

[Rotty]

My point is that the number of civilizations that will ship with the game is limited by the need to devise, code, and play test unique combinations of traits, starting technologies, and unique units and buildings, plus create leaderheads etc... by asking for 6+ Germanic nations, you'd be making them a third of the available civilizations. Ditto for "I want Greeks, and also medieval Greeks as a completely different civilization coexisting with them", it takes away scarce slots that would otherwise allow a greater diversity of nations to play.

 

[ylea]

I want to have a swedish nation and the leader would be gustav II adolf

 

[Dero Zero]

And if you would not like one country, you could take it away from the list or something else for players, who don't like over 20 civs.

 

[Cannae]

And if you would not like one country, you could take it away from the list or something else for players, who don't like over 20 civs.

What?

 

[GuitarHero]

North America
USAOK
SiouxOK
IroquoisOK
Canada
Haida
Seminoles
Navajo
Inuit

Mesoamerica
AztecsOK
MayanOK
Olmec
Taxacalans

Western Europe
EnglandOK
FranceOK
GermanyOK
DutchOK
SpainOK
PortugueseOK
VikingsOK
CeltsOK
Holy Roman EmpireOK

Southern Europe
GreeceOK
ByzantineOK
RomeOK
Illyria
Crete
Etruscans

Central/Eastern Europe
RussiaOK
PolandOK
Huns
Goths
Vandals
Bulgaria
Lithuania

Middle East
OttomanOK
ArabsOK
Egypt OK
IndiaOK
SumeriaOK
CarthageOK
BabylonOK
PersiaOK
Israel

East Asia
ChinaOK
JapanOK
MongoliaOK
KoreaOK
KhmerOK
Indonesia

Africa
MaliOK
EthiopianOK
ZuluOK
Congo
Berbers
Malagasy

Oceania
Maoris
Australia
Aborigines
Polynesia

South America
IncaOK
Tupi
ColombiaOK
Brazil
Caribs
Chile
Argentina

I'm too damn lazy to post my own list.

 

[Nobody]

I notice you didn't ok anything from Oceania, why?

I think just a polynesian civ would be ok. Having australia is pointless like having a canada or new zealand civ. Maori is too close to polynesia to have both, maybe Aborigines but if i could just pick one, i would pick polynesia. Of course many of the cities would be maori cities.

 

[TheLastOne36]

USA Yes
Sioux Yes
Iroquois yes
Canada no
Haida no
Seminoles no
Navajo no
Inuit no

Aztecs yes
Mayan yes
Olmec no
Taxacalans no

England yes
France yes
Germany yes
Dutch yes
Spain yes
Portuguese yes
Viking yes, but maybe as Sweden, Denmark or Scandinavia/Kalmar Union
Celts yes
Holy Roman Empire yes but only if they keep there op UU and UB

Greece yes
Byzantine yes
Rome yes
Illyria no
Crete no
Etruscans maybe but leaning towards a no

Russia yes
Poland Most obvious, of Course Yes
Huns maybe
Goths no
Vandals no
Bulgaria no
Lithuania no

Adding two:
Romania yes
Austria or Austria-Hungary Yes

Ottoman yes
Arabs yes
Egypt yes
India yes
Sumerian yes
Carthage yes
Babylon yes
Persia yes
Israel Maybe, but maybe as "jews"

Adding a couple:
Akkadia
Assyria
Pheonica
Armenia
All are maybe, if there is enough space

China yes
Japan yes
Mongolia yes
Korea no
Khmer maybe but i'd like to see Siam or Vietnam or even Burma instead
Indonesia no

Mali yes
Ethiopian yes
Zulu yes
Congo yes
Berbers yes
Malagasy no

Maoris no
Australia only if Canada is in.
Aborigines no
Polynesia yes i mean, we're talking about people who crossed the pacific from Fiji to the Americas in Canoes. Defienitly.

Inca yes
Tupi no
Grand Colombia yes but i prefer Venezuela oh and it is Gran Colombia, which included Venezuela(the capital, richest and most populous and important province, Colombia, Ecuador, Bolivia, Panama, Bit of Costa Rica, Bit of Peru, Guinea and Suriname
Brazil yes
Caribs no
Chile no
Argentina yes

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[Deep Thought]

I think RL civs in Civ-games is a big lack of realism. For example, nations IRL come and go. Civs in Civ stays forever. Another is that nations evolve from other nations. For example USA from England, Rome from the Etruskians, Russia from Nordic and so on. And also, do you think the Zulus started and evolved their culture in the tundra?
So, the Civilization franchise is very realistic...........................NOOOOOT!!!
So I would like to to see imaginary civs that evolves their culture. Maybe this would be called SIM-ilization.

 

[RedRalph]

Mine:


North America
USA
Sioux

Mesoamerica
Aztecs
Mayan


Western Europe
England
France
Germany
Spain
Viking


Southern Europe
Greece
Rome


Central/Eastern Europe
Russia
Poland
Bulgaria



Middle East
Turks
Arabs
Babylon
Persia
Israel

Asia
India
China
Japan
Mongolia
Vietnam

Africa
Mali
Ethiopian
Zulu
Egypt

South America
Inca
Gran Colombia
Brazil

 

[Zenon_pt]

Here goes mine:

America
USA
Aztecs
Mayan
Inca
Gran Colombia (new)
Brazil (new)

Europe
PORTUGAL
England
France
Germany
Spain
Vikings
Rome
Greece
Russia

Middle East
Turks
Arabs
Assyria (new)
Babylon
Persia
Israel (new)
Egypt

Asia and Pacific
India
China
Japan
Mongolia
Korea
Khmer

Africa
Carthage
Mali
Ethiopian
Zulu
South Africa (new)

 

[qwerobviun153577]

Vikings: NO
Norse: YES

Some more info (in spoiler)

Spoiler :

Norse Empire
Norseland
Norse
UU1 = Berserker (Availble earlier than the unit it replaces)
UU2 = Longboat (Move further? Bonus against other ships?)
Leader = Canute (favors expansion and military) or Harald Hardraada (flavors military and economy)
Power = Traders of the Sea (extra gold from trade? extra trade-routes?)
City List:
Nidaros
Uppsala
Birka
Heidabyr (Haithabu)
Tunsberg
Bjørgvin
Ribe
Oslo
Kaupang
Jorvik
Skara
Hladir (seat of the jarl of Hladir, modern Lade in Trondheim)
Roskilde
Sigtuna
Ahus (medieval name of Aarhus)
Kalmar
Jelling
Lund
Visby
Kongshelle
Viborg
Stavanger
Jelling
Uddevalla
Hamar
Longphort (Dublin)
Stiklestad

That is all for now. Any suggestions? Ideas for improvement?

 

[labrynianrebel]

In addition to what we already have:

Europe: Spanish, Dutch, Portugal

Africa: Carthage, Ethiopia, Zululand

Asia: Mongolia

Americas: Sioux, Mayans, Incans

Then also add a bunch of city-states to fill in the blanks (Europe is WAY over-represented)

 

[Optimizer]

No Vikings please!

 

[Polar Bear]

Considering that that the entire game of Civilization revolves around cities, you seriously think it should have the Inuit as a playable civilization? That's even worse than having the Sioux.

This shows how little you know about the Inuit. After they have been extensively debated in the 2K Forums, this is the result: http://forums.civfanatics.com/showthread.php?t=448438

 

[VidoveczAndrei]

In this thread people can post what nations they think should be added to the next game in the CIV series. So anyway here's the general list of what could be added IMHO. This of course is a general list and I am not expecting for all this to happen within the span of one game or expansion pack. I also made this thread because I had suggested the idea earlier that we create sub sections for the CIV V requests so that the threads don't get as cluttered.

North America
USA
Sioux
Iroquois
Canada
Haida
Seminoles
Navajo
Inuit

Mesoamerica
Aztecs
Mayan
Olmec
Taxacalans

Western Europe
England
France
Germany
Dutch
Spain
Portuguese
Viking
Celts
Holy Roman Empire

Southern Europe
Greece
Byzantine
Rome
Illyria
Crete
Etruscans

Central/Eastern Europe
Russia
Poland
Huns
Goths
Vandals
Bulgaria
Lithuania

Middle East
Ottoman
Arabs
Egypt
India
Sumerian
Carthage
Babylon
Persia
Israel

East Asia
China
Japan
Mongolia
Korea
Khmer
Indonesia

Africa
Mali
Ethiopian
Zulu
Congo
Berbers
Malagasy

Oceania
Maoris
Australia
Aborigines
Polynesia

South America
Inca
Tupi
Grand Colombia
Brazil
Caribs
Chile
Argentina

Romania,Lybia,Irak,

 

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