Civ VII Developer Update - July 2025 | What's coming in tomorrow's 1.2.3 update!

[SemiLazyGamer]

Time for my DK Bananza pallete cleanser.

 

[stealth_nsk]

Not sure if Assyria and Silla would get new wonders though there is always the chance

Some time ago Firaxis representative said that civilizations come with their own wonders. Although it could be interpreted as just releasing additional wonder per civ while making some existing ones civ-specific.

 

[Siptah]

Some time ago Firaxis representative said that civilizations come with their own wonders. Although it could be interpreted as just releasing additional wonder per civ while making some existing ones civ-specific.

In this case, Assyria and Silla already have wonders. So they are adding two new independent ones and make the already present ones civ-specific.

 

[bengalryan9]

The only thing in here I'm a little on the fence about is being able to carry settlers over across the age transition. Not sure if I like that as it seems like that's likely to become the optimal strategy going forward - train (or buy) as many settlers as you can in the lead up to the end of the age. Plus it's not like cities have a ton of options of things to build at the start of the age anyways. I need to see how this one plays out.

Also, I like that we can bring ships across from antiquity to exploration now... but how many do we get? There kind of has to be a limit. Aksum isn't the only civ that will benefit from this, either - Carthage will also be a fan.

 

[Lord Lakely]

Not sure if Assyria and Silla would get new wonders though there is always the chance

None of the wonders in the image are associated with any of the present Civs, so....

Wat Xieng Thong is in Laos
Halicarnassus is in Anatolia and the tomb of a PERSIAN satrap.
Ubudiah Mosque is in Malaysia.

I don't know where the Grand Bazaar is, but it would surprise me if it was associated with Qajar if the other three aren't linked to any of the new Civs, AND Dai Viet's isn't listed either.

I assume Emile Bell and Dur Sharrukin are just associated with Silla and Assyria and that Dai Viet and Qajar have a new, unlisted wonder each.

 

[Sagax]

I think Ed made it pretty clear during the first post-launch roadmap. Associated wonders are part of the civilization package and can be assumed to be part of the offering by default. They are not being advertised as their own thing.

Meaning both Assyria and Silla - just like Great Britain - will get new wonders to call their own.

 

[Ryansinbela]

None of the wonders in the image are associated with any of the present Civs, so....

Wat Xieng Thong is in Laos
Halicarnassus is in Anatolia and the tomb of a PERSIAN satrap.
Ubudiah Mosque is in Malaysia.

I don't know where the Grand Bazaar is, but it would surprise me if it was associated with Qajar if the other three aren't linked to any of the new Civs, AND Dai Viet's isn't listed either.

I assume Emile Bell and Dur Sharrukin are just associated with Silla and Assyria and that Dai Viet and Qajar have a new, unlisted wonder each.

Grand Bazaar is in Istanbul

Also why does Silla have a moon symbol, just curious

 

[Daigotsu Max]

I've been to Grand Bazaar! Delighted to add a wonder to my visited list

 

[Siptah]

None of the wonders in the image are associated with any of the present Civs, so....

Wat Xieng Thong is in Laos
Halicarnassus is in Anatolia and the tomb of a PERSIAN satrap.
Ubudiah Mosque is in Malaysia.

I don't know where the Grand Bazaar is, but it would surprise me if it was associated with Qajar if the other three aren't linked to any of the new Civs, AND Dai Viet's isn't listed either.

I assume Emile Bell and Dur Sharrukin are just associated with Silla and Assyria and that Dai Viet and Qajar have a new, unlisted wonder each.

The Grand Bazaar is either the one in Istanbul or Teheran. Probably the Qajar wonder and the latter. On the other hand, there would have been an obvious other wonder for Qajars to pick. So maybe it‘s the one in Istanbul and it‘s just a strange coincidence.

 

[SemiLazyGamer]

Confirmation Right to Rule part 1 is coming tomorrow.

https://xcancel.com/CivGame/status/1947355901972652074#m

 

[Ryansinbela]

It actually looks more like Istanbul on the outside

 

[SammyKhalifa]

The only thing in here I'm a little on the fence about is being able to carry settlers over across the age transition. Not sure if I like that as it seems like that's likely to become the optimal strategy going forward - train (or buy) as many settlers as you can in the lead up to the end of the age. Plus it's not like cities have a ton of options of things to build at the start of the age anyways. I need to see how this one plays out.

Also, I like that we can bring ships across from antiquity to exploration now... but how many do we get? There kind of has to be a limit. Aksum isn't the only civ that will benefit from this, either - Carthage will also be a fan.

I agree here. I don't really know that settlers need to stay.

 

[stealth_nsk]

The only thing in here I'm a little on the fence about is being able to carry settlers over across the age transition. Not sure if I like that as it seems like that's likely to become the optimal strategy going forward - train (or buy) as many settlers as you can in the lead up to the end of the age. Plus it's not like cities have a ton of options of things to build at the start of the age anyways. I need to see how this one plays out.

One of the main issues with abrupt age transition is not having things to build. Now with settlers, navy, etc. being carried over, you'll always have something to do and it will be a strategic choice. So, I'm pretty positive on this one, I could see some deep preparations for Exploration.

Also, I like that we can bring ships across from antiquity to exploration now... but how many do we get? There kind of has to be a limit. Aksum isn't the only civ that will benefit from this, either - Carthage will also be a fan.

Anyone could build ships and they'll equally transfer.

 

[Gen.Washington]

Battlefield 3 taught me about grand bazaar

 

[Ryansinbela]

But that is the one in Tehran though

A better image of the Istanbul bazaar

 

[wilting_aspen]

Also why does Silla have a moon symbol, just curious

Its military/national flag was believed to be a crescent moon according to historical records. Also, its main palace was constructed on a crescent moon shaped hill, perhaps the inspiration for the flag?

 

[Siptah]

I actually hope it’s the bazaar in Istanbul, so that the Qajars can get the Golestan.

 

[Lord Lakely]

It's not the one in Tehran. It is, as Ryan correctly pointed out, the one in Istanbul.

None of the new wonders (in the above image) are associated with an existing Civ.

It's more of a question whether Dur-Sharrukin and Emile Bell are associated with Assyria and SIlla or not (I suspect they are. The game came out rushed, which makes me believe they delayed the release of Silla and Assyria, but retained their wonders to ensure you can still hit the Cultural Legacy (on paper.)).

 

[stealth_nsk]

None of the new wonders are associated with an existing Civ.

Yep, those are additional wonders, promised as part of RtR

 

[bengalryan9]

Anyone could build ships and they'll equally transfer.

Well yeah, obviously, but Aksum and Carthage get bonuses that nobody else does. They've always been more incentivized to have a navy in the antiquity age but it used to just disappear, now they can take advantage of their perks without having to worry about them just vanishing in to thin air at the transition.