Civ5 PDF manual is here!
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Dale
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Well guys, this was a disappointing read. Not one of this year's better books so far. It isn't exactly War and Peace.
It's better than the Elemental book though.
Mustakrakish
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OMG I love the krepost! I was worried about Russian UB (Not getting what it supposed to represent in real life and all... Still don't get it), but it appears to be a decent UB that's very useful. 
Beardy Dan
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It's better than the Elemental book though.
That's not exactly a challenge though.
da_Vinci
Gypsy Prince
From page 47 ...
"Ranged Units
Ranged units are units that can attack enemies in adjacent hexes and in hexes one or more spaces away. The distance a unit can attack is determined by its Range statistic. The strength of its ranged attack is determined by its Ranged Combat statistic. An Archer unit, for example, has a Combat Strength of 7, a Ranged Combat Strength of 8, and a Range of 2. It can attack enemy units one or two hexes away with a Strength of 7. However, if an enemy unit attacks it, it defends with its Combat Strength of 4. Note that Ranged units always employ Ranged combat when attacking another unit, even if that unit is adjacent. The Ranged unit uses its Combat Strength only when it is defending against an attack by another unit."
This isn't supposed to make sense, is it?
Anyone know what is should really say?
dV
"Ranged Units
Ranged units are units that can attack enemies in adjacent hexes and in hexes one or more spaces away. The distance a unit can attack is determined by its Range statistic. The strength of its ranged attack is determined by its Ranged Combat statistic. An Archer unit, for example, has a Combat Strength of 7, a Ranged Combat Strength of 8, and a Range of 2. It can attack enemy units one or two hexes away with a Strength of 7. However, if an enemy unit attacks it, it defends with its Combat Strength of 4. Note that Ranged units always employ Ranged combat when attacking another unit, even if that unit is adjacent. The Ranged unit uses its Combat Strength only when it is defending against an attack by another unit."
This isn't supposed to make sense, is it?
Anyone know what is should really say?
dV
Oh, I see, so there are enough City-States to make it quite possible to win without the other civs voting for you.
SirTurtle
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Yep, that's my understanding.
But I'd guess that outbidding the AI civs for the votes of enough city-states will be hard to achieve on higher difficulties (unless you have an overwhelming lead). Each AI need only pick a couple city-states to ally with; whereas for you to get a diplomatic victory you will need the support of almost all of them.
Liberating city-states and resurrecting dead civilizations may be the key strategy to break this impasse and win a diplomatic victory.
Maniacal
the green Napoleon
While I agree that Lady Gaga is nowhere near the same league as Beethoven, Hamlet, tiki heads or cave paintings, she still is a cultural icon and does have a (largely clothing fashion based) artisticness to her videos (if a bit weird, but there have been many great/famous artists who were a bit off their rocker too).
yanner39
Emperor
Does chopping forests provide hammers to a city's build? I didn't see it in the manual. They just indicated that chopping trees was 3 turns.
It does mention that in the strat guide.
Kudos for the attacking from hills bonus! I always missed that, especially for mounted units. Thanks!
"Anakin, it's over, I have the higher ground"
mqduck
Chieftain
It's been stated numerous times that the AI does get smarter at higher difficulty levels. A list of possible strategies is compiled and ranked from from best to worst, and the AI chooses one semi-randomly, more often taking the smart choices at higher difficulty levels. It's too bad you can't just raise the AI skill, but not the bonuses.
mqduck
Chieftain
Who's to say that every Civ is a candidate? In Civ 4 there were always only two candidates, and each AI-controlled candidate always voted for themself.
The thing is, computers just aren't that smart. They're fast, but not smart.
We should rejoice, we're still smarter than computers, for now.
stealth_nsk
Deity
We've seen this from gameplay video. Any major civ except for liberated ones vote themselves. City-states vote for their ally. Not sure what happens if city state has only friends, not allies - will abstain or vote for the best of friends.
Centurio
Warlord
In my opinion popular music in general and all popular American entertainment is about as artistic and culturally enriching and enlightening as ancient Roman gladiatorial combat if not even less so. Most of it is complete garbage lacking any sort of direction or meaning. I recall feeling particularly disgusted when somebody suggested that Lady Gaga should be a 'Great Artist' in Civilization V. The notion is both absurd and offensive to real art and real culture. Why? Her 'art' is little more than grotesque shock value trickery and sexual exploitation of both herself and most other people in her videos (in one she played a 'nun' with no covering over her legs -save for the loins- and ate rosaries...) and filthy 'modern artists' like her have no place counted among great writers, painters, musicians and thinkers of years past. It would be like having modern rap artists as great artists: is "Soulja" Boy at all comparable to Robert Frost or Constantine Cavafy? One would be a fool to say so.
battleork95
Chieftain
From page 47 ...
"Ranged Units
Ranged units are units that can attack enemies in adjacent hexes and in hexes one or more spaces away. The distance a unit can attack is determined by its Range statistic. The strength of its ranged attack is determined by its Ranged Combat statistic. An Archer unit, for example, has a Combat Strength of 7, a Ranged Combat Strength of 8, and a Range of 2. It can attack enemy units one or two hexes away with a Strength of 7. However, if an enemy unit attacks it, it defends with its Combat Strength of 4. Note that Ranged units always employ Ranged combat when attacking another unit, even if that unit is adjacent. The Ranged unit uses its Combat Strength only when it is defending against an attack by another unit."
This isn't supposed to make sense, is it?
Anyone know what is should really say?
dV
I think this is a major typo and they mean to say that it "range attacks" with a strength of 8 and defends with a "melee defense" of 7. Or maybe they want to condfuse us...
""Ranged Units
Ranged units are units that can attack enemies in adjacent hexes and in hexes one or more spaces away. The distance a unit can attack is determined by its “Range” statistic. The strength of its ranged attack is determined by its “Ranged Combat” statistic. An Archer unit, for example, has a Combat Strength of 7, a Ranged Combat Strength of 8, and a Range of 2. It can attack enemy units one or two hexes away with a Strength of 7. However, if an enemy unit attacks it, it defends with its Combat Strength of 4. Note that Ranged units always employ Ranged combat when attacking another unit, even if that unit is adjacent. The Ranged unit uses its Combat Strength only when it is defending against an attack by another unit."
Yea, its apparant that this is a typo. As to your question of whether anyone knows what is it supposed to say, I know exactly what it is supposed to say. Just look at the unit list on page 208 of the manual. There, it gives the correct values which are 4 combat strength and 6 ranged combat strength, with a range of 2. So, using the correct info to edit the paragraph you are asking about yields the following:
Ranged Units
Ranged units are units that can attack enemies in adjacent hexes and in hexes one or more spaces away. The distance a unit can attack is determined by its “Range” statistic. The strength of its ranged attack is determined by its “Ranged Combat” statistic. An Archer unit, for example, has a Combat Strength of [[4]], a Ranged Combat Strength of [[6]], and a Range of 2. It can attack enemy units one or two hexes away with a Strength of [[6]]. However, if an enemy unit attacks it, it defends with its Combat Strength of 4. Note that Ranged units always employ Ranged combat when attacking another unit, even if that unit is adjacent. The Ranged unit uses its Combat Strength only when it is defending against an attack by another unit.
Ranged units are units that can attack enemies in adjacent hexes and in hexes one or more spaces away. The distance a unit can attack is determined by its “Range” statistic. The strength of its ranged attack is determined by its “Ranged Combat” statistic. An Archer unit, for example, has a Combat Strength of 7, a Ranged Combat Strength of 8, and a Range of 2. It can attack enemy units one or two hexes away with a Strength of 7. However, if an enemy unit attacks it, it defends with its Combat Strength of 4. Note that Ranged units always employ Ranged combat when attacking another unit, even if that unit is adjacent. The Ranged unit uses its Combat Strength only when it is defending against an attack by another unit."
Yea, its apparant that this is a typo. As to your question of whether anyone knows what is it supposed to say, I know exactly what it is supposed to say. Just look at the unit list on page 208 of the manual. There, it gives the correct values which are 4 combat strength and 6 ranged combat strength, with a range of 2. So, using the correct info to edit the paragraph you are asking about yields the following:
Ranged Units
Ranged units are units that can attack enemies in adjacent hexes and in hexes one or more spaces away. The distance a unit can attack is determined by its “Range” statistic. The strength of its ranged attack is determined by its “Ranged Combat” statistic. An Archer unit, for example, has a Combat Strength of [[4]], a Ranged Combat Strength of [[6]], and a Range of 2. It can attack enemy units one or two hexes away with a Strength of [[6]]. However, if an enemy unit attacks it, it defends with its Combat Strength of 4. Note that Ranged units always employ Ranged combat when attacking another unit, even if that unit is adjacent. The Ranged unit uses its Combat Strength only when it is defending against an attack by another unit.
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