Civfanatics Survivor Challenge

I hate to tell you this, but, while I like having fun, you might have to tone down the posts for no point.

You don't want to risk getting a warning for spam.

I'm not saying stop, just cut back a little (and don't mention that you are trying to reach 300 posts).

Personally, I don't like the fact that you have to reach 300 in order to get a costum avatar, but I didn't make the rules.
 
:satan: We are coming...
And we will roast Bedford over a hot fire until he tells us your secrets and alliances :evil:

Yea, we don't really want a closed thread due to spam.
 

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Souron, you're not the only one who's gets endorsements.

I've got your Foreign Advisor, a former president of the United States, and a friendly neighborhood Barbarian
 

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actually, that appears to be a German warrior. barbarians wear white
 
ybbor said:
actually, that appears to be a German warrior. barbarians wear white
First reply here in a while..

It might look like Germany, but that was also the sample color they used.
So it's only the sample, thing
 
yeah, i know, i'm just saying you could at least bother to change the color, or not call it barbarian
 
Hi guys, I just stopped by see what youve done with the place...*looks around slowly*
Nice and bright! It's mostly brown where I come from......Oh, by the way, where's Bedford?
 
grybeard said:
Hi guys, I just stopped by see what youve done with the place...*looks around slowly*
Nice and bright! It's mostly brown where I come from......Oh, by the way, where's Bedford?
Hes our ! You can't have him!
*takes out tranquelizergun, shoots himself*
ablrgrva *falls asleep* :sleep:
 
You have guns here?! I think Im going to like it here. I am the first one on the jury in the MO forum survivor game.
 
grybeard said:
You have guns here?! I think Im going to like it here. I am the first one on the jury in the MO forum survivor game.
*wakes u and gains conciesness* uh, wha,
Oh, I'll probably get a warrning for saying that. ;)
 
*Nabs bedford*

YOULL NEVER TAKE ME ALIVE COPPERS!

*Trys to jump into the stargate, misses, and goes over a cliff.*

YEARGGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGH *Gasp* GGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHGHG!

(OT: I notice you have no Civ: Call to Power fourm... you make me sad.)
 
Grilox, take a peek at the sub-forums here. ;)

Here the game ends with the Survivor Jury's final decision!

Bacon King voted for Louis XXIV
-0blivion- voted for Louis XXIV
Perfection voted for Souron
nonconformist voted for Souron
ybbor voted for Souron
WildFire voted for Louis XXIV
Gumby78 voted for Louis XXIV

Well done, Louis XXIV. You have survived!
 
haha! the person i wanted to win won!!! although i still expect my bribe from souron to be caried out ;)

as mosty fo you know, until i was voted out I was the one telling everyone who to vote for. (and if noncon hadn't betrayed me i would be the survivor right now grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr) once the tribes merged i mass Pm'd everyone telling them who to vote for and telling the victim to vote for someone different...until the alliance formed from tribe darkshade consting of emp.napolean and louis XXIV *cough*fenchies*cough* gained power through a mole *cough*noncon*cough* and don't worry noncon i don't hold grudges. oh wait did i say grudges? i ment olive branches, i don't hold olive branches. although don't worry napolean/ Louis you guys are forgiven, i can't blame you

in the next game are the tribes going to be civ/myst or a mixture from both?
 
The tribes will be drawn along forum lines. To help illustrate, Bedford has made a great banner for this! :D :goodjob:
 

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Cube's vote analysis:

Vote # 1 -- LLXerxes

In an ironic twist of fate, Sibling was forced to be the first tribe to vote again. LLXerxes had previously said that he was unavailable for a few days, so that may have led to the others voting him off. It looks like he was just caught at a bad time.

Vote # 2 -- Octavian X

Same scenario. His tribe must have felt that he was a non-player, so they booted him. If he had a plan to lay low and surprise-attack in the future, it was certainly dashed now.

Vote # 3 -- YNCS

YNCS was fairly busy at the time of this vote. As Sibling couldn't afford to lose any more battles, it appears that he was booted for non-participation.

Vote # 4 -- useless

useless was quite enthusiastic at the start of the game, but to his dismay he got caught up in other things. Darkshade noticed this, and they were not forgiving. useless had unfortunately found himself in a corner.

At this point Sibling and Darkshade merged into Tribe Thunderfall.

Vote # 5 -- CivGeneral

Apparently the alliances were already forming with ybbor, Gumby78, and -0blivion- going after CG. It is here too that Emp. Napoleon and Louis XXIV show a glimpse of their alliance with their thumbs down for nonconformist. There doesn't appear to be anything personal against CivGeneral; he just appeared to be the greatest threat to the three who voted him off.

Vote # 6 -- Perfection

A nearly unanimous vote for Perfection, who had declared earlier that he was going to gone for the week. Nearly unanimous, that is, except for Bacon King, who had voted for WildFire. WF immediately caught this and
planned revenge.

Vote # 7 -- -0blivion-

Bacon King would have been done for at this point if he hadn't used his immunity. The alliance of him with Emp. Napoleon and Louis XXIV had chosen -0blivion- for probably no other reason than to chip away at WildFire's
allies. The immunity thus sent -0blivion- into, well, oblivion.

Vote # 8 -- Bacon King

No escaping it this time: WildFire's revenge had to be accomplished. With no immunity left, there was no way to go but out. A seemingly trivial decision earlier has snowballed into this.

Vote # 9 -- ybbor

A little less participation this time around. With Bacon out of the way, those who had voted for him seemed to slumber. This was the perfect time for the Napoleon-Louis alliance, who had voted for ybbor before and wanted
him out now. They managed to convince nonconformist to switch sides and pull off a coup.

Vote # 10 -- Gumby78

nonconformist did not participate this time around, but that didn't mean Louis and Napoleon weren't successful again. Gumby78 chose at this time to betray his alliance with WildFire in apparent hopes of a widespread backlash
against him. It looks like Louis and Napoleon were not sure enough of Gumby to trust him.

Vote # 11 -- nonconformist

Now the tables were turned against noncon. It appears that like Gumby, he was hoping for a revolt against one of his allies. And so, the same scenario played out.

Vote # 12 -- WildFire

Now was his time to go, decided Louis XXIV and now Souron, who had replaced Emp. Napoleon. Like before, WF was attracting votes from those who were his former allies. This must have influenced Louis and Souron, who
promptly booted him off.

The final Council vote:

Although he was instrumental in getting most of his mates voted off, Louis XXIV often went along with the crowd, letting those who voted differently be eliminated. This apparently did not make him look as much of a threat
to people, who wanted to get as many dissenters off as possible before it came down to the wire. We will never know if Emp. Napoleon would have won, as he was replaced by Souron shortly before the final vote. It is possible, then, that Souron was just not as well-known to people as Louis was. After lasting through rounds of treachery, Louis XXIV managed to pull off a victory. For a mere couple of rounds, though, Souron managed to make the game just as close and exciting as Mojotronica's game.
 
Very close

Here's my experience.

When the game started, I asked everyone in my tribe to tell me what weapons they were planning to pick. I did this for two reasons, it might offer a fairly balanced weapon choices (at least one of each weapon). Also, it would allow people to notice me, hopefully allowing alliances to be easier to form. 6 people told me of their weapon choices, although, ironically, only 5 submitted their choices, Useless told me about his weapon, but didn't send it. CivGeneral simply didn't notice about the weapon submission until too late (he said something about not knowing the weapons needed, and sending something else). The first part of the plan worked, because, even though we were outnumbered, we won the round. But I wasn't so sure about the second part. I was worried that it might backfire, as I would be noticed, but not as an ally, but as a target. So I stopped bugging people for their weapon plans.

One thing did happen that was positive. Emp.Napoleon, in addition to telling me their weapon, offered me an alliance. I was unsure whether I wanted an alliance, because I didn't want to have to stick with someone at this point. But I told him that, as long as he keeps sending in weapons choices, I wouldn't vote for him.

Anyway, my Tribe kept winning for awhile, and it seemed almost too easy (that all the other tribe would disapear). At one point, there was a tie, but we still won (I was actually hoping they would win that round). In spite of loosing most rounds, it wasn't very cool to have been the only person to vote in the final round before the tribes joined.

I told a bunch of people that Useless was the most inconsistant voter (because he was) and most people voted him off. There wasn't a real alliance at this point.

Things changed when the tribes joined together. I wanted to form an alliance with some people from the other tribe and target someone from my own tribe to show that old tribe loyalties weren't important (IIRC, Oblivion approached me with an alliance between yybor and himself). I randomly picked nonconformist, not for any reason. They suggested CivGeneral. Since I had already voted and suggested Emp.Napoleon to vote, our votes went for nonconformist instead. It wasn't really anything to go against them, and it wasn't to specifically target noncon. I just had already voted for someone random on my tribe.

But, right after this vote was displayed, nonconformist comes back from Germania, and I was really worried that he might try to vote back against me. I was going to target him, but Emperor Napoleon wisely told me to vote with the group (which was a very smart thing to do).

The next vote was the main vote, where things changed.

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While he might have sent a similar message last round, this one made me feel as if he was in control of the game (he didn't seem to be sending it as a suggestion). I knew it would be only a matter of time before all those who oppose him would be voted off. But why didn't I vote for yybor? I wish the answer was simple, but it was probably an overcomplicated plan.

Last round, -Oblivion- had initially suggested I vote for Gumby. He quickly sent another message changing the target to Perfection. But I had saved the message, and I sent it to Gumby, telling him that he might be the next target

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Then I told Bacon King to target Oblivion, and declare immunity. I figured that, although yybor was probably more active, getting Gumby to follow along would be more useful than going without him. Of course, things went pretty close to the deadline, as Bacon King hadn't seen the Private Message by late in the night. So I sent him an e-mail (I was kinda panicky that the whole thing would blow up in my face). This moment made me sure I would keep an alliance with Emperor Napoleon. When I said that, if this doesn't work, I will likely be gone because I started a conspiracy to break a poweful alliance. He reminded me that we started a conspiracy to break a powerful alliance, which assured me that he was sticking by my side in this.

Although Gumby didn't vote with us, he didn't vote against us, and its possible that my message had an effect. Bacon King did see my PM (labeled Survivor [URGENT!!!!], but he might have seen the e-mail I sent him first ;) ). Unfortunately, we didn't get the voted we needed, and were only saved by Bacon King's well-timed immunity.

Next round, yybor told me to target Bacon King now that his immunity was gone. I'm not sure if he believed me, or thought he might as well try it. I tried to send a half-hearted message in the hopes that it would help think I changed back to his side. If it did, I could care less. The point is, I wasn't able to get anyone else to vote for yybor, and Bacon King was voted out.

Now it became urgent. The next target would be either me or Emperor Napoleon. I had seen a message by Oblivion saying he knew he shouldn't trust the Frenchies. I figured that meant Emperor Napoleon would be the next target (since Napoleon was French). But, when I was writing the message, I realized my name could be interpretted as French as well. So I had no idea who would be the target, and I didn't have the voted to beat him. Luckily I was saved by nonconformist, who, either confusing us for French, or wanted to help those who were agains the Frenchies, warned that yybor was conspiring against the French.

Although I already knew that, it meant nonconformist might be a much needed vote. I told him I wasn't French (since it wouldn't be fair for me to pretend I was), but his vote is very much needed, because, without it, yybor would win the game. I asked him if yybor had a specific target, but apparently only both of us together were the target. I also approached Wildfire, with the hope that he would be the turning vote. I sent his a message, but he never responded. I declared my immunity as my last act, thinking that Wildfire might have tipped him off. My only hope was that he did not, and yybor, thinking that he already had enough votes, would save his immunity for later. Nonconformist, Napoleon, and I were the only ones to vote for yybor, but luckily, with less people, there were less votes needed. Wildfire didn't vote, but it didn't matter because I had declared immunity (I did ask CivCube what would happen if we both had declared immunity, but he didn't know).

Once this round ended, I felt a huge relief, followed by another panic. I figured people would surely see me as trying to control the game, and vote me off next. I thought about forming different alliances, but I figured the jury was stacked with people I voted for, and the best route was to stay with people who voted the same (plus I had gone this far with Emperor Napoleon, it didn't seem right to change that now). I might have had talks with Wildfire to try and stay friendly (also, I think I tried to convince him that I still had my immunity). The vote went for Gumby.

After that, things became worse. My only alliance member left, thankfully to be replaced by someone not in the game ;) Since I could never tell the sincerity of the alliance with Wildfire, I figured it would be best to offer an alliance with Souron before someone else did, and continue the alliance as if it was the same as before. Thankfully he agreed, but I didn't think I had much choice. Nonconformist was the next to go.

This was the final round, it was me, Souron, and Wildfire. With 3 left, I figured anything goes, and I was half expecting Wildfire and Souron to unite to kick me out (if he had offered for me to vote for Souron I might have even considered it). But, unfortunately, apathy was the only thing that happened, and I was left with Souron, who I figured had a much better chance of winning, as he only voted for a couple of people, since he was a fill-in for a previous player.

yybor offered to let me bribe him (although some would call it blackmail ;) ). I declined to accept, so my sig stays the same. He told me that, unless Souron changes his sig, he would probably vote for me, since I was in the game the whole time.

When the votes were tallied, I breathed a sigh of relief. It was a close vote on a very challenging game. Although I think hard work is very important to winning this game, I would never have won it without some luck, and I though there was no way I could win several times. With only a few slight changes, the game could have turned out dramatically different (although not every different version resulted in me loosing the game ;) ).

I thank everyone who voted for me, and CivCube for hosting this game, it truley was a lot of fun :)

EDIT: I just deleted all the PMs I was saving to make this, and my number dropped from 68 to 3 :D I was actually starting to expect a pop-up asking if I wanted a read receipt when I was typing normal posts.
 
i just want to note you forgot the PM i sent about you having no chance, with me telling you to vote for napolean, and with your response,with your response i felt i was well on my way to winning the game. my staragy seemed to be very simlar to yours, only without the counter-alliance stuff, and the stuff at the end.
 
I forgot about that. You showed that it was mathmatically impossible for me to win with well-timed immunities (which was absolutely right, even if I knocked you out, I would be next, followed by someone following you, following by Napoleon).

But I pointed out that alliances don't win the game, only two can make it, and only one will win it. Did you send the same message to Emperor Napoleon? He seemed to indicate he didn't have it, which made me feel that he was the target, although it didn't stop me from declaring my immunity (it just made me feel I was wasting it, which made your analysis of how long it would take for me to loose much longer than reality would be). Luckily, with nonconformist, who sent a message about the same time, I actually had a fighting chance (I figured, even if I loose, two people might convince more people to vote against you, one person won't convince anybody).

It seemed that, once you were out of the game, no one organized anything to take me down (which was the second luckiest thing to happen to me).
 
your right i didn't send one to napolean. i only sent it to you because you were the target and i knew you guys would be in constant communication, and this way you would probably be convinced napolean was the target and get him to use his immunity and not you. the reason i guarenteed i wouldn't vote you out nxt was because you would be voted out this time, i'll dig up the PM and post it here for everyone to see

here it is (this was in preperation for the vote shown in post 163):

survior, merging of the tribes

okay, it's obvious now that you and emporer napolean are working together. but am giving you a chance to join our tribe, by showing your support and voting out napolean. YOUR TRIBE CAN'T WIN. we have 4 people, you have two. let's say that my tribe are persons a,b,c, and d, and you and napolean are y, and z, let's go through this hypothetically, asuming verything goes perfect for you two.

round 1:
a) votes for z
b)z
c)z
d)z

y)a
z) declares immunity, votes a

a is gone

round 2

b)votes z
c)votes z
d)votes z

y) votes b
z)can't declare immunity, votes b

z is gone

round 3

b)votes y
c)votes y
d)votes y

y)declares immunity, votes b

b is gone

round 4
c)votes y
d) votes y

y) can't declare immunity votes c

your tribe losses and two members of my tribe go into the final tribe, my tribe wins. now, do you want a guarenteed loss, or a chance to win? vote napolean, and i can gaurentee my tribe will not vote you off once the tribes are merged
 
My experience? I was very dissapointed to have gone when i did, as i really felt that the alliance between me and ybbor could have gone all the way. We would join with other people, and then discard them when they were no longer needed. Nothing personal. Here is an

Then it would come to the stage when it was just us two left. Then i figured that more people would vote for me, as ybbor was the leader of the alliance. He would be seen as the controlling member, the one who sent them PMs that led to them being voted off. They would want revenge on him. Although they would know i was a member of the alliance, i would be the lesser of two evils.

I made the mistake of believing Louis was completely under my control. I assumed that he would vote for who i wanted, when i wanted. How little did i know. My fault there. Here is an example in a PM to ybbor. That was a silly thing to presume. This is also an example of my first point.

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Here is the earliest record of an alliance involving me, ybbor, and Napoleon. Alas, he twigged our evil plans to manipulate minds to quickly, and realised that if he didn't do something about it he would lose.

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Where did i lose it? When i was nominated, i didn't recieve the most votes. Bacon King declared immunity. What would have happenned if Bacon King had been voted off then. I think me and ybbor would have gone all the way.
 
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