Yep. You are right of course. The AI "playing to win" makes the game not fun at all to play. The AI should be there to enhance the experience of the player, provide a decent challenge and play competently. Your link to the video in the Denouncing!!!!!! thread was very good. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJcuQQ1eWWI It's very clear that Soren Johnson had a key to the pulse of Civ players. He helped with Civ III and really listened to the fans with cIV. Very smart man that one. Unfortunately, he isn't an option in the future as he has fully embraced the dumbing down and streamlining of games. Jon Shafer just tried to implement his vision of what he thought was fun. Apparently he loved multiplayer in Civ III above all else and it showed. His AI in Civilization 5 was supposed to replicate the multiplayer experience. Rage quitting and lots of insulting. The dumb thing is why have the AI try to act like a human (a very dumb human of course) when you can just play a human in multiplayer??? Not that multiplayer works or anything. Just a thorough disaster. The sad thing is that Civilization 5 probably sold well enough and enough people bought the crappy DLC that they'll just turn around and do the same thing a few years from now. The future is bleak.