Civilization elimination thread

[truenarnian]

It doesn't look the barbarian scheme at all on my machine; the green's not readily confusable with black to my eyes, but even if it were the shade of red is very different. Placing Ethiopian and barb units side by side (as often happens when I'm playing Ethiopia), the two look nothing alike. I particularly like the Ethiopian colours.

I LOVE the Ethiopian colours, both in theory (red and dark green) and for thematic purposes (good fit considering the flag, and even Haile's military kit. But I checked again: they look very similar on my machine.

 

[Buccaneer]

Looks like I hadn't voted today:

Arabia 29
Babylon 31
Carthage 18
China 25
England 14
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 27
Maya 18
Netherlands 20
Persia 19
Roman Empire 4
Russia 5
Siam 16

Arabia: just counteracting the downvote. Should end up in the top 3.
Siam: Somewhat of an erratic opponent, can be strong and aggressive or they can be worthless. Playing as them makes it tought to get going.

 

[GreekIrish]

I LOVE the Ethiopian colours, both in theory (red and dark green) and for thematic purposes (good fit considering the flag, and even Haile's military kit. But I checked again: they look very similar on my machine.

They often look like barbarians to me. Maybe it's because when I look at my screen at an angle, the color de-saturate a little, but there have been quite a few instances of me almost attacking someone because I thought their warrior was a barb.

 

[Awsome Sause]

Arabia 28
Babylon 31
Carthage 18
China 25
England 14
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 27
Maya 18
Netherlands 20
Persia 19
Roman Empire 5
Russia 3
Siam 18

Rome: There UA really helps get new cities to become productive fast and there two UU's work well together.

Russia: A good Civ but I would just say the worst one left, her UA is nice but i find her UB and UU lacking.

 

[Tachii]

Saying Ethiopians look nothing like barbs is kind of extreme. When you don't put them side by side they do look pretty similar in color. And when a player have seen barbs for so long, it takes a while to really differentiate them from Ethiopia with a more experienced eye. A glance will often mistake the two.

 

[Monthar]

Arabia 28
Babylon 29
Carthage 18
China 25
England 14
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 28
Maya 18
Netherlands 20
Persia 19
Roman Empire 5
Russia 3
Siam 18

I will take Korea over Babylon every time.

 

[The A.K.T]

Arabia 28
Babylon 29
Carthage 18
China 25
England 12(-2)
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 28
Maya 18
Netherlands 20
Persia 19
Roman Empire 5
Russia 4(+1)
Siam 18

England is the worst civ along these.

Russia is a strong civ. Very good UA, good UB. and medium UU.

 

[GAGA Extrem]

Arabia 28
Babylon 29
Carthage 18
China 25
England 12
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 28
Maya 19
Netherlands 20
Persia 19
Roman Empire 5
Russia 2
Siam 18

Russia: The UB is 'meh', the UU comes too late for my taste, the bonus hammers from the UA are nice and double Uranium is certainly neat (horses rather useless though, imho) - but that's it. And then there is the worst thing about Russia: Tundra bias. Thank god I can deactivate that - it rivals Ghandi for the 'worst bias ever'. [edit] Seeing how the fellow forum member above interpretetd them, it is interesting how vastly perception of CIVs can differ from player to player...

Maya: From all the wide empire CIVs, this one is my favorite. Early science AND faith from pyramids is very nice. Their UA can be a pain, but you can always delay theology and go for Physics first, so you won't have to pick more than 5 GPs.

 

[draaibaar]

Actually, I too hate the start bias for The Netherlands. There isn't currently a way to ensure them some number of marsh or flood plains tiles. The Polder could be entirely useless! I understand that they aren't the only civilization that might have a useless feature, but I just don't like rolling a game as The Netherlands and not seeing marsh tiles. I just about never play those games. If I'm not going to take advantage of my unique features, then why bother playing that civ instead of another? Bah.

You're right, I think so too, I would love a worse start with a lot of marsh surrounding Amsterdam.

 

[Monthar]

There isn't currently a way to ensure them some number of marsh or flood plains tiles.

Yes there is, if you use the new Sandstorm map under advanced options.

 

[DGDobrev]

Arabia 28
Babylon 30
Carthage 18
China 25
England 12
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 28
Maya 19
Netherlands 20
Persia 19
Roman Empire 5
Siam 18

Babylon remains my favorite thanks to their consistent performance on the highest difficulties. Lately, I have been working on ways to maximize efficiency with them, and now I really want to get a start with Babylon and GBR. That would make Babylon's early game advancement fly off the scale.

Sorry, but Russia has to go. IN my opinion, from all remaining civs it is the worst one yet. Poor early game advancement, limited early game warmongering options. I keep alluding to the "early game", cause this is where you make it or break it. In multiplayer, few people will let you run your horse around till you finally get your UU's pumping. Russia has limited options to defend from Chariot, Bowmen, Horse Archer and other rushes which many players readily make.

 

[Beethovania]

Arabia 28
Babylon 28
Carthage 18
China 25
England 12
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 28
Maya 19
Netherlands 20
Persia 20
Roman Empire 5

Siam 18

Babylon has a great UA and all, but i find their UU and UB rather boring, i don't play as them that often.

I was too late for Russia, then i give my plus to Persia, they deserve to be high on this list.

 

[DGDobrev]

Sorry for kind of destroying your vote, Beethovania...

 

[Beethovania]

Sorry for kind of destroying your vote, Beethovania...

Thats okay Guess i wasn't quick enough.

 

[Mesix]

Arabia 28
Babylon 29 +1
Carthage 18
China 25
England 12
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 28
Maya 17 (-2)
Netherlands 20
Persia 20
Roman Empire 5
Siam 18

Still plotting the same course today. Babylon always has a strong start (even on the highest difficulties) thanks to the early (and continuous) boost. I don't like Maya much because their "free" great people are not really free.

 

[Vopros]

Arabia 28
Babylon 29
Carthage 18
China 25
England 10
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 28
Maya 17
Netherlands 20
Persia 20
Roman Empire 6
Siam 18

England - I can play without +2 movespeed

Roman Empire - +25% hummer helps build new big cities and UU with roads so cool

 

[Rooftrellen]

Arabia 26 (-2)
Babylon 29
Carthage 19 (+1)
China 25
England 10
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 28
Maya 17
Netherlands 20
Persia 20
Roman Empire 6
Siam 18

Carthage has that free harbor, which also often means extra early hammers, as well as trade routes.

Arabia...just makes everything too easy. It's like playing a difficulty level lower with them....boring. Not sure how they are doing so well.

 

[maurcus]

Arabia 26
Babylon 29
Carthage 19
China 25
England 10
Ethiopia 10 (+1) an above average civ with good UU,UA,UB and there UU,UA synergy is very good
Inca 29
Korea 28
Maya 17
Netherlands 20
Persia 20
Roman Empire 4 (-2) as good as it sounds i usually don't need it as i almost always have high production cities.
Siam 18

so sad to see Russia gone...

 

[PhilBowles]

Arabia 24
Babylon 29
Carthage 19
China 25
England 10
Ethiopia 10 (+1) an above average civ with good UU,UA,UB and there UU,UA synergy is very good
Inca 29
Korea 28
Maya 17
Netherlands 20
Persia 20
Roman Empire 4
Siam 19

Arabia: Once again, the success of this civ is due entirely to its ability to exploit AI gold deals. It's weak on small maps where you have few trading partners, or late in most games where everyone has the resources you have to offer, and essentially unplayable in multiplayer.

Siam: Siam, on the other hand, remains an extremely versatile civ whatever the settings (unless city-states have been disabled...), and the strategy and victory conditions you shoot for will vary game by game with the availability and distribution of city-states. I don't know why Ramkhamhaeng gets so much hate as an AI either - I like playing against him because I like the CS game, and I can rely on him to engage with it. Yes, he's usually powerful, but I like civs who can be meaningful rivals.

 

[Mesix]

Siam: Siam, on the other hand, remains an extremely versatile civ whatever the settings (unless city-states have been disabled...), and the strategy and victory conditions you shoot for will vary game by game with the availability and distribution of city-states. I don't know why Ramkhamhaeng gets so much hate as an AI either - I like playing against him because I like the CS game, and I can rely on him to engage with it. Yes, he's usually powerful, but I like civs who can be meaningful rivals.

Siam also has a pretty potent ability to crank out 4 UB Universities using Legalism