Civilization elimination thread

[Mesix]

 

[Awsome Sause]

Post # 751 was skipped.

Arabia 29
Babylon 30
Carthage 18
China 25
England 13
Ethiopia 8
Inca 28
Korea 27
Maya 20
Netherlands 22
Persia 17
Roman Empire 12
Russia 7
Siam 17

 

[Tachii]

Persia: I hate his start bias. In the five or so starts I did with him, he gets marshy rivers with few lux.

Don't think Persia have any start bias, especially not a marsh bias. Must be just bad luck.

 

[Leviat]

Should the Iroquois be dead, post 746 didn't provide reasons for the votes which finished them off. I believe I saw somewhere someone say only votes with reasons count.

I would love to see them live again!

 

[Hammer Rabbi]

Arabia 29
Babylon 31
Carthage 18
China 25
England 13
Ethiopia 8
Inca 28
Korea 27
Maya 20
Netherlands 22
Persia 17
Roman Empire 10
Russia 7
Siam 17

Rome's Legion lost their luster in GnK since Iron is no longer a premium tech path. I like the UA but not enough for them to last much longer. They were fun to play as in vanilla and horrible to play against in both vanilla and GnK.

Mesix get's credit for this upvote. I lol'd at it. Stay thirsty, Nebuchadnezzar.

 

[theguy8882]

Arabia 30
Babylon 31
Carthage 18
China 25
England 13
Ethiopia 8
Inca 28
Korea 27
Maya 20
Netherlands 22
Persia 17
Roman Empire 8
Russia 7
Siam 17

Rome isn't bad, but there UA is not very strong and their UUs are boring

Arabia is great. they always have lots of money and the Ca and baazar are great.

 

[Tabarnak]

Arabia 30
Babylon 31
Carthage 18
China 25
England 13
Ethiopia 8
Inca 28
Korea 27
Maya 20
Netherlands 20
Persia 18
Roman Empire 8
Russia 7
Siam 17

Netherlands : I don't like his UA and his starting bias.

Persia : I prefer this one. Especially the +1 movement during warfare. It makes any Great Walled civ instantly obsolete.

 

[DeathFace]

Arabia 30
Babylon 31
Carthage 18
China 25
England 14
Ethiopia 8
Inca 28
Korea 27
Maya 20
Netherlands 20
Persia 18
Roman Empire 8
Russia 5
Siam 17

I like England since I like naval orientated civs a lot.

I'm downvoting Russia due to the AI's actions towards me in every game she is in. She always seems to secretly hate me for some reason. It doesn't help much that it looks like she has no eyebrows in her leader scene, that really creeps me out.

 

[Bakspatel]

Heh, been away for a couple of days and I see that we are over 10 pages further. Going to scan through them soon for the civ rankings, but did I miss something big in the mean time?

 

[woodshadows]

I would love to see them live again!

I don't feel like scanning through to confirm, but if anyone knows for sure that the rules state a reason must be given for votes to count, I'd ask that they retract the votes on post 746.. just to be all technical and stuff.

 

[draaibaar]

Netherlands : I don't like his UA and his starting bias.

It's starting bias is grassland and only 8% of grassland contains marsh. Nothing wrong with.

 

[PhilBowles]

Ethiopia: Awesome icon and colors (just need to lighten the green slightly so it doesn't look like barbs), nice flavorful UA.

It doesn't look the barbarian scheme at all on my machine; the green's not readily confusable with black to my eyes, but even if it were the shade of red is very different. Placing Ethiopian and barb units side by side (as often happens when I'm playing Ethiopia), the two look nothing alike. I particularly like the Ethiopian colours.

 

[Kwami]

It's starting bias is grassland and only 8% of grassland contains marsh. Nothing wrong with.

Actually, I too hate the start bias for The Netherlands. There isn't currently a way to ensure them some number of marsh or flood plains tiles. The Polder could be entirely useless! I understand that they aren't the only civilization that might have a useless feature, but I just don't like rolling a game as The Netherlands and not seeing marsh tiles. I just about never play those games. If I'm not going to take advantage of my unique features, then why bother playing that civ instead of another? Bah.

 

[ense7en]

Arabia 30
Babylon 31
Carthage 18
China 25
England 14
Ethiopia 8
Inca 29
Korea 27
Maya 20
Netherlands 20
Persia 18
Roman Empire 6
Russia 5
Siam 17


Inca, it's been said many times in this thread why they are so awesome.
Fantastic civ for any victory condition.

Rome isn't a bad civ, but their UA can be tough to utilize well (especially if you are trying to build wonders), and their UUs, while very strong for that period of time, aren't useful past then really.

 

[Algeroth]

Arabia 28
Babylon 31
Carthage 18
China 25
England 14
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 27
Maya 20
Netherlands 20
Persia 18
Roman Empire 6
Russia 5
Siam 17

Upvoting Ethiopia because there are other civs that deserves to go before it. UB is good and when i find the UA and UU kinda bland and underwhelming when trying to play OCC wih Ethiopia, it works perfectly when you involuntary end up playing one. It's one of the few civs that provides plenty of fun when things doesn't turn up as you've planned.

Downvoting Arabia, because they are good, I like to play as them because they are powerful and flavourful, but they doesn't deserve one of the top spots. Let's face it - they are only good because of the Bazaar, their UU and UA are rather weak.

 

[GhostSalsa]

Arabia 28
Babylon 31
Carthage 18
China 25
England 14
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 27
Maya 20
Netherlands 20
Persia 18
Roman Empire 4
Russia 5
Siam 18

(oops missed a few days)

I agree, Rome's UA is pretty heavy on the unexciting side. I won't deduct them for the IW/Swordmen problem since I argued back in a Denmark vote that that's a game problem that might be fixed. I also am neutral-negative on Rome the AI.

Siam I hate as an AI, completely and absolutely. But I would never want him to go. I would probably make him my top civ, just for the absolute thrill of defending against one of his elephant invasions, the satisfaction of every successful kill. Also completely well-balanced civ to play (strong but not in a way that hands you the keys to victory).

 

[PhilBowles]

Downvoting Arabia, because they are good, I like to play as them because they are powerful and flavourful, but they doesn't deserve one of the top spots. Let's face it - they are only good because of the Bazaar, their UU and UA are rather weak.

I'm not sure it's fair to call the UU weak, however it isn't even really because of the Bazaar that Arabia's powerful. It's because of bad AI programming that undervalues gold, that only expands to develop new luxuries slowly, and always has gold spare to trade for your luxuries. If you prefer to play against the AI without exploiting this, if you play multiplayer, or if you do happen to come across AIs that mostly have the resources you have to offer and/or don't have spare cash, Arabia becomes a rather weak civ.

 

[Buccaneer]

Downvoting Arabia, because they are good, I like to play as them because they are powerful and flavourful, but they doesn't deserve one of the top spots. Let's face it - they are only good because of the Bazaar, their UU and UA are rather weak.

Camels rather weak? Seriously? Or did they get nerfed in G&K?

 

[cman2010]

Arabia 28
Babylon 31
Carthage 18
China 25
England 14
Ethiopia 9
Inca 29
Korea 27
Maya 18
Netherlands 20
Persia 19
Roman Empire 4
Russia 5
Siam 18

downvote goes to maya as others have stated the free gp is not free if it did not count against you gp production then that would be fine but since it does im throwing them a down vote.

up vote to Persia again they rock and I hope they make the top 10.

 

[Tachii]

Camels rather weak? Seriously? Or did they get nerfed in G&K?

If anything they improved with the extra movement.

Rather interesting to see Persia rise. I think they went as below as 14 at some point.