Combine vs Empire vs Flood vs Covenant

[Patroklos]

Moving energy somewhere requires energy. Basic thermodynamics.

I suggest you examine just how basic thermodynamics works, you are doing it wrong.

Who corrupted Mendicant Bias again?[/QUOTE]

He corrupted himself, or are are you now going to claim that the ability of someone to tempt a betrayal is somehow unique to The Flood?

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

I suggest you examine just how basic thermodynamics works, you are doing it wrong.

Wait, your fridge requires no energy? Dispersing a collimated beam of highly charged photons and then storing them in an energy bank requires no energy?

I'll be back on the second point, need to go for now.

 

[Patroklos]

If you chose to do it that way sure, but you don't have to. A natural heat sink, for instance, while using energy in the transfer, doesn't require the INPUT of any energy. The question being asked is what amount of energy has to be provided by the reactor to shielding and thus will not be available for weaponry.

In a real setting, most people trying to find a real word functionality for shielding have come to the conclusion that the energy is collected and then disapated using the cold of deep space. In that case your shielding is a function of how much energy you can store, and how fast you can disapate it, both of which have no real reliance on your own energy production.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

Hmm, constant enemy fire would require constant venting of energy into space (seeing that a heat sink requires transfer to a cooler material). Radiators would make pretty enticing targets. Although I am curious. What kind of natural heat sink can easily transfer many gigajoules of energy per second?

As for the second point:

are are you now going to claim that the ability of someone to tempt a betrayal is somehow unique to The Flood?

Wait, did I say that? Does anyone remember me saying that?

I think I just implied that MB was corrupted by the Flood. They convinced (Terminal 3, Legendary Diffculty transcripts) the AI to go rampant and betray its creators. They were responsible for that.

Though you could also argue that the AI chose to betray them. But if I convinced someone to smash a glass window, it seems weird not to put even one iota of responsibility for the act on my hands.

 

[Patroklos]

Hmm, constant enemy fire would require constant venting of energy into space (seeing that a heat sink requires transfer to a cooler material). Radiators would make pretty enticing targets. Although I am curious. What kind of natural heat sink can easily transfer many gigajoules of energy per second?

Again, your shielding capacity would be a function of what you can disapate AND store.

You could simple have the capacitors or heat sinks preped before a battle to be ready to recieve energy.

As for what imaginary natrual heat sink can easily transfer many gigajoules of energy per second, well we are talking about imaginary weapons that can deliver gigajouls of energy per second

Wait, did I say that? Does anyone remember me saying that?

I think I just implied that MB was corrupted by the Flood. They convinced (Terminal 3, Legendary Diffculty transcripts) the AI to go rampant and betray its creators. They were responsible for that.

Though you could also argue that the AI chose to betray them. But if I convinced someone to smash a glass window, it seems weird not to put even one iota of responsibility for the act on my hands.

Then whats your point. The fact that the flood convinced an MB to defect is not some qualitative advantage we can calculate. All sides have the capacity to temp defections.

The point is the Flood did not defeat the their Forerunners because they are so powerful, but rather by a fluke that we cannot pretend can be readily replicated against another foe.

 

[negZero]

Empire has more advance and stronger weapons then the Combine & Covenant (hint Empire has vessel that strips whole planets of everything to make more of them). Flood would be stopped by the Empire's destroy the planet policy and did I mention the vessels that strip planets of everything to build more?

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

As for what imaginary natrual heat sink can easily transfer many gigajoules of energy per second, well we are talking about imaginary weapons that can deliver gigajouls of energy per second

Point taken. Although thermodynamically, delivering energy like that is easier than capturing it.

The point is the Flood did not defeat the their Forerunners because they are so powerful, but rather by a fluke that we cannot pretend can be readily replicated against another foe.

True. Potentially they can do a lot of damage, but if the Combine are smart about it, they can easily dominate.

 

[Patroklos]

Where is this information on the Combine coming from? All I know is what we see from the game, and that didn't leave me with the impression the were some galaxy spanning superpower.

 

[SS-18 ICBM]

All I know is they that use portals spanning multiple dimensions to move entire armies. There's got to be some serious power backing that sort of technology up. Their empire spans multiple dimensions.

 

[negZero]

All I know is they that use portals spanning multiple dimensions to move entire armies. There's got to be some serious power backing that sort of technology up. Their empire spans multiple dimensions.

And yet our portal technology is still better hence why they invaded Earth.

 

[bigdog5994]

Master Chief would win!!!!

 

[say1988]

And yet our portal technology is still better hence why they invaded Earth.

Not really, it was a freak accident, or the suit guy, and we don't know what he is.
And we have no idea what most of the Combine is like. For all we know the have no faster than light technology. Or they could have fleets of massive starships.
We can't judge them off a small force deployed against a planet with no significant opposition with a limited capability to transfer forces.

The point is the Flood did not defeat the their Forerunners because they are so powerful, but rather by a fluke that we cannot pretend can be readily replicated against another foe.

It depends how far the flood spreads before the Empire starts sterilizing planets. Given a decent start and managing to spread to major worlds, the Empire would be crippled at least.

 

[Patroklos]

All I know is they that use portals spanning multiple dimensions to move entire armies. There's got to be some serious power backing that sort of technology up. Their empire spans multiple dimensions.

Yet it doesn't say how much of each dimension it controls.

 

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[negZero]

Not really, it was a freak accident, or the suit guy, and we don't know what he is.
And we have no idea what most of the Combine is like. For all we know the have no faster than light technology. Or they could have fleets of massive starships.
We can't judge them off a small force deployed against a planet with no significant opposition with a limited capability to transfer forces.

It would be pretty safe bet that Combine is just giant dick you know because of the no sex, enslaving, stripping Earth of everything of value and still trying to get there hands on the most advance human technology (aka portal tech).