Computer Questions Not Worth Their Own Thread II

I've decided on a different monitor, after learning TN is more suited to gaming.

This seems like a good deal. Although I want to make sure that site is legit instead of a scam, and the fact that it is refurbished isn't an issue. At that price it seems like a steal.
 
Oh god don't buy TN if you care about things other than CS:GO :shake:

have you seen a TN panel IRL? Absolutely disgusting. The 144hz IPS will be better. Same responsiveness without looking like crap.

AAA games are simply too demanding on highest details, even the king of all GPUs won't hit 144fps - but a 970 certainly will on less demanding games, like CS:GO for example. It's mostly useful for competitive gaming more than anything, and is actually a negative for Fallout 4 due to engine limitations. I personally would avoid it because you'd become spoiled by a higher frame rate and disappointed when it isn't able to hit 144fps, just like I and many others are with 60fps.
 
leif erikson said:
Not sure how it is different from this at newegg or amazon?
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That's a different monitor than the one I linked. The one I linked has g-sync, anti-blur etc. The devil is in the details.

cardgame said:
Oh god don't buy TN if you care about things other than CS:GO :shake:

have you seen a TN panel IRL? Absolutely disgusting. The 144hz IPS will be better. Same responsiveness without looking like crap.

AAA games are simply too demanding on highest details, even the king of all GPUs won't hit 144fps - but a 970 certainly will on less demanding games, like CS:GO for example. It's mostly useful for competitive gaming more than anything, and is actually a negative for Fallout 4 due to engine limitations. I personally would avoid it because you'd become spoiled by a higher frame rate and disappointed when it isn't able to hit 144fps, just like I and many others are with 60fps.
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That's something to think about. Even when I do play FPS games I tend to play them on my Xbox more than anything else. Although I certainly wouldn't mind switching. I was thinking it would be sweet to be able to play oldschool games on 144 fps.

At the same time g-sync would be really nice. Do they have g-sync monitors at a lower fps which is also IPC?

Anyway, just about every single 'gaming monitor' I can find is TN, not IPC. Zelig also told me TN is better for gaming and IPC is better for everything else... and gaming will be the primary use of this build. Now I'm confused between the two of you.
 
TN is better if you're a cheapskate, but IPS panels match TN panels nowadays. Almost every one will have 5ms response or lower. Your colors and viewing angle will be totally screwed if you go with TN panel.
 
cardgame said:
TN is better if you're a cheapskate, but IPS panels match TN panels nowadays. Almost every one will have 5ms response or lower. Your colors and viewing angle will be totally screwed if you go with TN panel.
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I can't find any monitors that are both IPS and G-sync period, much less any within my price range (will not pay more than $500, preferably less).

If you can find one, please share.
 
Oh, I was under the impression that you posted an IPS monitor.

Because TN doesn't actually offer 16.7 million colors. That's false advertising...

1-5ms is pretty negligible honestly. IPS and 144hz, let alone G-sync, are all above $500 apparently. AMD's solution, FreeSync, is available on my $300 29" UW for and offers 75hz too. Depending where and when exactly you got your parts, you might be able to return your 970 and pick up a 390, then get FreeSync ;)

If possible try to look at a TN panel IRL before committing to it.
 
Well this monitor got great reviews on amazon.

Since Micro center has the monitor where you can buy it in the store itself, I don't mind taking a look at it. I can go to my local office max just to see the TN monitors, although I'm 99% sure they won't have the exact one I'm wanting.

I'm not going to return the parts for AMD. Especially not for a 75 hz monitor...

Just for clarification, my computer has already been assembled (although I'm going back next week to do the finishing job, there were a few little things we didn't get done).

The build looks badass, in my opinion. I don't have any real intention of changing this. The only question now is if TN will be acceptable to me. If it is, then my mind has pretty much been set. If not, then a major revamp will be needed, since whichever monitor I get won't have g-sync.
 
Major differences:

FreeSync
+~$200
1440p
IPS panel
27"
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G-sync
-~$200
1080p
TN Panel
24"
Thicker bezels

Peripherals will last longer than your PC. I'd spring for it if you feasibly can.
 
I think the XB280 would be better if you can get it for $280 or so.
 
Sure. Although it's TN and I thought you said TN is bad. :confused:

edit: that, is if you mean the 240. The 280 is a 4k tv... and those are WAY out of my price range.
 
That's because they're both TN panels, and of the two, the 240 is better.
 
I talked to someone at newegg who told me g-sync is overrated, and the refresh rate is more important. If that's true I guess I can live without g-sync, and replace that feature with IPS over TN.

Now if only I could find an IPS monitor with 144 hz for under $500...
 
caketastydelish said:
I've decided on a different monitor, after learning TN is more suited to gaming.

This seems like a good deal. Although I want to make sure that site is legit instead of a scam, and the fact that it is refurbished isn't an issue. At that price it seems like a steal.
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That's a good price, just make sure you can still return it under whatever warranty they offer for refurbished stuff.

Cake you're overthinking things. Also G-Sync is not something I have ever used but it does sound like something that would be useful if you have a problem with V-Sync and its associated added latency. If you are concerned about not hitting 144FPS with your 144hz panel, that's when some sort of adaptive sync technology is potentially worthwhile.
 
Well Cardgame is trying to convince me that TN isn't good at all, and I should make IPS a priority instead of g-sync. Although even if it's IPS, I still want that nice 144hz refresh rate, and it can't cost more than 500.

specs i'm shooting for:
1920 1080p
IPS
144fps
cost $500 at the very most
24' or 23' inches.

If such a thing doesn't exist, I'll stick with the XB240H.

edit:

Is TN really that bad? That's the real question. Cardgame has me convinced that TN is poop. On the other hand that acer TN monitor I linked has been getting great reviews from everywhere.
 
Only you can really answer that for yourself. IPS panels are supposed to have better color reproduction and viewing angles than TN which is an older technology. But in practice you might not really notice that too much or even care to the extent you do notice it. For instance for viewing angles, that might matter for a TV where people in a room might not be sitting directly in front of it, or for a very large monitor on your desk where the edges might not be directly in front of you. But a 24" monitor on your desk should be directly in front of your face, making viewing angles mostly a meaningless issue. As for color reproduction, that's something you could potentially notice, but you might not. I don't know. Some people are more sensitive to that than others. Can you go to a store and look at some TN panels vs. some IPS ones?

This list seems to show that if you want a 144hz IPS, it's out of your price range and it is WQHD at a minimum. (1440p).
 
You have a point. I'll go to the store tomorrow and compare IPC to TN monitors. By the way, somebody made a post on an internet forum that makes me lean heavily to TN, based on his post:
Spoiler :

"I'm currently using the Asus PG278Q aka RoG Swift. It's a 1440p monitor, but it's a TN display. If you are looking for a display that's generally more for gaming/ only for gaming, then TN is a better way to go. The only major drawback on TN (which is the same draw backs since they've been out on the market) is viewing angles and colors (if you compare them to IPS). Colors can be improved a bit via calibration so then it's only really one drawback.

However, the benefits are much more greater when compared to IPS.

ULMB
Anti-ghosting
Lower GtG response times
Faster stock refresh rates (no need to overclock)

These are all key features that matter to gamers. Some put more effort in specific areas, but this list is what really makes the difference.

I used TN from 2006-2011, then I switched to an 27' iMac that uses an LG IPS panel for 2 years. I will admit the colors were beautiful and 1440p was awesome, but whenever I gamed, I noticed it had horrible ghosting, high response times, and the screen tearing (mostly due to hardware) that was just unpleasant. In 2013 I sold that iMac and remade a new gaming rig. I still had my former display which was a 23' Samsung SyncMaster from 2009 (1080p/60Hz). It was a downgrade going back to TN & 1080p, but the benefits were much greater when it came to gaming. I had a heck of a lot less ghosting and response times were lower. "


Apparently blurring is pretty much non-existent on some of the gaming TN monitors, which the IPS monitors would definitely blur... And yeah, gaming is what this is primarily for.
 
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