Conspiracy? Coincidence?

[Farm Boy]

Actually Commodore, the older I get, the more convinced I am that government intervention and socialism is going to need to step in to undo the worst excesses of capitalism. It's an old schtick, the anti technology rant, but as technology improves, the population increases, and neither new resources nor space is invented, the more we are going to need to artificially increase the value of labor. Since capitalism is so efficient these days, it can handle it. The only real reason to resist giving the unskilled and willing to work, the simple common patriot, significant economic power and determinism is the will to dominate pure and simple.

 

[Hygro]

There were just a lot of news stories of bad Uber experiences in the past year, and TV is always looking to stay relevant while appealing to the common denominator of media absorbers.

 

[aelf]

The why isn't found in profits. The why is found in humanism, democracy, base respect. If our society is incapable of structuring capitalism in such a way that it provides for the empowerment and importance of its citizenry then we deserve not to keep it. We'll have earned either the violence or tranny that follows. I suppose we can indeed bend over and hope that it's benevolent.

Actually Commodore, the older I get, the more convinced I am that government intervention and socialism is going to need to step in to undo the worst excesses of capitalism. It's an old schtick, the anti technology rant, but as technology improves, the population increases, and neither new resources nor space is invented, the more we are going to need to artificially increase the value of labor. Since capitalism is so efficient these days, it can handle it. The only real reason to resist giving the unskilled and willing to work, the simple common patriot, significant economic power and determinism is the will to dominate pure and simple.

You sound like an almost-Marxist just about to find his way there. That's great

 

[Farm Boy]

Oh, it's not new. I don't have enough faith in the enlightened few to go that far aelf. The Marxists have their own flavor of beastliness. But if you've ever been under the impression I think the market and rugged individualism are sufficient to stave off evil, well, I guess we've never posted together in threads that deal with the American Gilded Age, automation of labor, or agricultural policy in general.

 

[aelf]

I'm not sure why you think Marxism is about the "enlightened few". The original is almost exactly about the opposite (i.e. the origin of the meaning of 'communism'). Vanguardism is just one strain of it.

 

[Farm Boy]

Well, there's a certain brute honesty to letting the market do its thing that's probably more elegant than tinkering is going to come up with. Letting it drive wherever the hell it wants is pretty damned dippy though. I don't let my toddler drive my car no matter how badly he wants to, and sheooot, he's probably smarter now than the conglomerized intelligence of the herd animal.