Conversion of Stone Age mod events to C2C

[rightfuture]

(edited)
Checking reg svn version.
Will try to get the module activated tonight and check to see if it's working.
Ok reg SVN works perfectly. Copy has updated, and I have a personal copy on desktop.
Going to experiment with downloaded version only and will update you tomorrow. Thanks DH.

 

[strategyonly]

I'm back.
Checking svn version.
I think the mp svn version needed koshling to add me to authorize correctly, so that is a wash until he checks it.
Will try to get the module activated tonight and check to see if it's working.
Ok reg SVN works perfectly.
Going to experiment with downloaded version only and will get back with you tomorrow.

Wrong thread, see your looking at one thing in your mind and concentrating on another, i just mentioned that a few posts ago, maintaining stuff, its hard, but this seems to be in the realm of it No offense to YOU, but i suggest, and only suggest, that you bow out of the MP game THIS time, since your having so many problems, and just cant be there all the time, its just not fair to the others. (again No Offense).

 

[rightfuture]

I will edit my post appropriately to end confusion. I have the reg svn installed with my folder accessible and am experimenting with it on my pc. I won't update until I am comfortable with it.
Sometimes it is better to keep it simple. (I think the mp game is progressing fine 4 turns, just need authorization it looks like.)
Thank you SO.

 

[rightfuture]

I want to at least start a new updated SVN game and play through the prehistoric to see how events and flow played out. I'm almost done.
I could also load the Stone Age mod, if it is working,and check it out to get a feel.
So we can start talking about it.

If you are waiting for a posted experiment, it will take a little while to do a tweak, and make sure I am careful with uploading to the SVN.

 

[strategyonly]

I want to at least start a new updated SVN game and play through the prehistoric to see how events and flow played out. I'm almost done.
I could also load the Stone Age mod, if it is working,and check it out to get a feel.
So we can start talking about it.

If you are waiting for a posted experiment, it will take a little while to do a tweak, and make sure I am careful with uploading to the SVN.

OK, yeah, pls post here first, works better that way, so whom ever is interested can look also, and give advise, ideas etc. and again thx for doing this for DH and C2C.

 

[rightfuture]

Ack, got sucked into just playing C2C, and found myself past the prehistoric era....sorry guys!!!

Getting back to the Stone Age Events..

@Nimek, I'm sure that it with get alot of attention when the
Epic Nomadic Start to C2C becomes a focus.

I'm hoping we can lay out some great ideas in discussion, because A great and EPIC start(and finish) to C2C will set the pace for Caveman2Cosmos as a truly Epic Expansion (if it isn't obvious already) and it can be a perfect introduction to new players, especially when Multi-Maps gets C2C lots of extra attention!!!
I'm not the only who can suggest prehistoric events, there is some great fiction and links floating around the web on prehistory if people want to bring them up!!! hint hint!!

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

I have not been doing much either, but with luck this tooth will be out tomorrow and I can get back to normal.

 

[rightfuture]

It's going to happen asap, the power of focus and coordination.
I want to see all the things that can become!
Let's see what I can get started today!

 

[rightfuture]

since I am ready to talk about this, and since others are suggesting updating the way events are handled.

I will have nothing to offer v29, but I am actively experimenting with the stone age events,
-so that I will be regularly working my SVN folder in the immediate future.

- I have shifted my immediate focus from PR to stone age events.
- I will continue to maintain, as well as step up my Official PR efforts as C2C - PR & Marketing director, and will revise and upgrade our PR thread, as well as launch a more visible and clear campaign, immediately after I have officially started regular modding contributions, and successfully integrated them into my schedule this month. In fact I plan on making some useful marketing material, and start on a Epic C2C promotional video after v29.
- I understand that there is recent discussion to rework the event system for C2C.
- I appreciate everyone's patience.
- I plan on sharing my progress soon.

 

[Thunderbrd]

I'm not thinking the event system rework is on anyone's immediate project horizon. In the meantime, yes, further development of more events will probably be incredibly helpful to balance the event system as it is now, particularly in the stone age. So this is definitely appreciated!

 

[strategyonly]

I'm not thinking the event system rework is on anyone's immediate project horizon. In the meantime, yes, further development of more events will probably be incredibly helpful to balance the event system as it is now, particularly in the stone age. So this is definitely appreciated!

Ditto .. . SO

 

[Hydromancerx]

- I will continue to maintain, as well as step up my Official PR efforts as C2C - PR & Marketing director, and will revise and upgrade our PR thread, as well as launch a more visible and clear campaign, immediately after I have officially started regular modding contributions, and successfully integrated them into my schedule this month. In fact I plan on making some useful marketing material, and start on a Epic C2C promotional video after v29.

Awesome!

 

[rightfuture]

For each Stone Age event we need to put together the information we need to decide if it is, or could be made, useful for C2C. I am not yet sure what that information is or the best format.

Event 1 Cooked Food

• 2 variations
  1. In their attempt to find a way to conserve food, %s1_civ_adjective tribe has accidentally learned the benefits of Cooked Food.
  2. One of our tribe members has accidentally found a way to get more digestible food by putting it over fire for a short period of time.
• Free Tech TECH_COOKED_FOOD
• Prereq
  • Techs TECH_THE_FIRE (TECH_CONTROLLED_FIRE in C2C) and TECH_GRAIN_GATHERING
  • Other nation has the tech (variation 1)
  • Unhealthy city (variation 2)

Since almost all cities start out as unhealthy this may fire too often in C2C, but looks like a good event at first glance.

Event 2 Best Hunters

Almost completely unusable as stands (wrong units/promotions et al) for C2C but the ideas may be salvaged.

Okay to start. I will go over the list and break down the events.
Following your lead I will use your format to break down the list.

I see 3 steps to be followed.

>1. Break down list. Found files, updated svn, installed notepad++, Making a list.
I will post results. And I will locate and compare it to the existing event lists in C2C.


2. make sure I have working svn. (it is synced now) I will upload a blank txt file per SO's or DH's ok when they give it.

3. upload 1st event or (2nd since you did 1st) to modules folder?

4. I may have to reinstall win8 to get tortoise working. Win 8 Pro may be the issue.
I can't seem to get user acct to override "need to elevate".
Works with the admin acct, but admin has limitations.
Dislike having to switch accts constantly just to update.
(my current solution is to virtulize win 7 in hyper-v - works with winpro)
Will wait until later.

Thought I'd update everyone on finally making progress.
(also, when possible, I am working with MrAzure (and anyone else, like Thunderbrd) on updating and improving Moddb content for marketing purposes.
Video work will follow now that I have a few partners.)

 

[rightfuture]

Ok here is a brief copy of the stone age events list.
Working to flesh it out.

Spoiler :

I think I will just cut and paste at first.

Event 1 Cooked Food

2 variations
In their attempt to find a way to conserve food, %s1_civ_adjective tribe has accidentally learned the benefits of Cooked Food.
One of our tribe members has accidentally found a way to get more digestible food by putting it over fire for a short period of time.
Free Tech TECH_COOKED_FOOD
Prereq
Techs TECH_THE_FIRE (TECH_CONTROLLED_FIRE in C2C) and TECH_GRAIN_GATHERING
Other nation has the tech (variation 1)
Unhealthy city (variation 2)


Since almost all cities start out as unhealthy this may fire too often in C2C, but looks like a good event at first glance.

Event 2 Best Hunters

Almost completely unusable as stands (wrong units/promotions et al) for C2C but the ideas may be salvaged.
RF- I agree - not well worded. I wonder if we can find some event paths like this in other prehistoric games?
3 variations
One of our best hunters says he has developed a better way to hunt our prey! What should we do?
A member of the %s1_civ_adjective tribe has stood out among their hunters. He has taught the rest of the tribe how to become a

He might have been bragging about his skills. Let him show us some of his abilities.
A good hunter you say? Let's give him the chance to teach our hunters some tracking tips.
This is good news! Let's get our hunters together so he can teach them some hunting lessons.

Event 3 MESSED_PAINTING


Natives from the %s1_civ_adjective tribe have found their cave paintings messed up. This outrageous event has made their leader angry.

Some children from our tribe were caught messing up our Cave Paintings. This source of inspiration is now lost.
A young hunter of our tribe has accidentally messed up our Cave Paintings while trying to depict his hunting adventures on them. These sources of inspiration are now lost.


Event 4 BEST_STONE_EDGES

tribespeople in %s2_civ_adjective have developed great skills that let them build Stone items faster.

Some of our tribespeople in %s2_civ_adjective say they have improved their abilities to build Stone items.
Excellent. We are in need of top quality craftspeople. Let's make them show us their skills.

Ok to save time I just started with listing the events.

Event 5 OBSOLETE_PALISADES_1

Event 6 BARBARIAN_ATTITUDE_1

Event 7 BARBARIAN_HELP_1

Event 8 BARBARIAN_ASSAULT_1

Event 9 BARBARIAN_GIFT_1

Event 10 BARBARIAN_WARRIOR_INVATION_1

Event 11 KNOWLEDGE_INHERITANCE_1

Event 12 SHAMAN_APPRENTICE_1

Event 13 EARTHQUAKE_DREAM_1

Event 14 TRAITOR_HELP_1

Event 15 TRIGGER_MIGANTS_1

Event 16 IMMIGRANT_BETRAYER_1

Event 17 BISON_HERD_1

Event 18 CORN_DISCOVERED_1

Event 19 RICE_DISCOVERED_1

Event 20 WHEAT_DISCOVERED_1

Event 21 BARLEY_DISCOVERED_1

Event 22 TRIGGER_PINE_DISCOVERED_1

Event 23 BARBARIAN_WOMAN_1

Event 24 BARBARIAN_ANGER_1

Event 25 FOREIGN_WOMAN_1

Event 26 CIVIC_ATTITUDE_1

Event 27 CIVIC_REQUEST_1

Event 28 BARBARIAN_ATTEMPT_1
PRODUCTION_SABOTAGED


Event 29 RANCH_DISASTER_1

Event 30 POULTRY_FARM_DISASTER_1

Event 31 OBSOLETE_KNOWLEDGE_INHERITANCE_1

Event 32 OBSOLETE_CAVE_PAINTING_1

Event 33 MAMMOTH_1

Event 34 SEED_CAMP_LOST_1

Event 35 MICROLITH_WORKSHOP_ACCIDENT_1

Event 36 DRUG_TRAFFICKING_HELP_1

Event 37 GOLD_FROM_DRUG_1

Event 38 MICROLITH_BUILDING_DESTROYED

obsolete
BROTHERS_IN_NEED_6
FREE_GATHERER_1
FREE_HUNTER_1
HUNTING_LODGE_1
POTATO_REVEALED_1
WOUNDED_BARBARIAN_1
CLUBMAN_UPGRADE_1
GREAT_MERCENARIES_1
RETIRED_BARBARIAN_UNIT_1
RETIRED_BARBARIAN_REVENGE
STOLEN_GOLD
PRODUCTION_SABOTAGED
BETRAYAL_ASSAULT
EARTHQUAKE
DRUG_TRAFFICKER_VENGEANCE_1
FIRST_TO_DISCOVER_FALCONRY
TRIGGER_HAWK_UPGRADE
BARBARIAN_JAVELINEER_INVATION_1
LOST_SHIP_1
FREE_BARBARIAN_LEADER_1

and I will attach my working file

 

[rightfuture]

Maybe we should use google docs to edit the same working copy?

Here is the current working copy.
Please let me know if I am going in the right direction.

Now that I have started getting it going, I will be able to chew on it, and get it moving.

 

[rightfuture]

I am so sorry it has taken me so long to start on this.

Dancing Hoskuld,
Please forgive me for having so much trouble getting started.
I hope I'm not asking for too much or frustrating you.

Am I on the right track? Should I even pursue this?
What should I do?

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Am I on the right track? Should I even pursue this?
What should I do?

StrategyOnly has converted some of these already but I am not sure which. They are in his Modules folder in the MoreEvents folder. he has done them in a modular fashion which is very good as it gives you/us examples to work with. His Cooked Food event does not look quite right to me in that it should obsolete with the cooked food tech not sedentary lifestyle.

So looking at the cave painting event

Event 3 MESSED_PAINTING

three possible events-

Natives from the %s1_civ_adjective tribe have found their cave paintings messed up. This outrageous event has made their leader angry.

Some children from our tribe were caught messing up our Cave Paintings. This source of inspiration is now lost.

A young hunter of our tribe has accidentally messed up our Cave Paintings while trying to depict his hunting adventures on them. These sources of inspiration are now lost.​

Outcomes?

What the heck?
This disastrous event cannot go unpunished. Let's whip the offenders to teach them a lesson!
This is a deplorable event. From now we should be more careful if we don't want to have more surprises.​

1) do we need more than one set now that we have both cave and rock painting?
2) what were the outcomes and costs (I have forgotten) IIRC the standard sort of thing is either do nothing and loose building or pay to have it fixed.
3) some seem to suggest a heightened war response with other nations.

The event has no meaning if you have built the Laux... Paintings wonder.

Should there be a counter event that gives you the building if you don't have it? Eg "A young hunter of our has created a masterpiece while trying to depict his hunting adventures on them. This is source a of inspiration for all."

 

[rightfuture]

Ack, I need to look at what SO has done.

Will get back to you on the rest.

 

[Faustmouse]

Bumb for me.
Any events in here that aren't added yet?

 

[Dancing Hoskuld]

Quite a lot really but you need to look at each and see which can be converted as not all are suitable. Anything to do with other tribes needs to be looked at with regards the stuff I want to do with extended diplomacy to Indigenous People and barbarians.