Croatian Civilization

[Shqype]

Thanks for clarifying that. Very interesting!

 

[LAnkou]

well, tie is in French "cravate"

i just checked in a dictionnary of etymology (history of words) and it comes from Croates (Croatian in french)
With more precision, before 1648, it was the name of light cavalrymen (from croatia) who wear ties...
then from 1649, the tie took the name of the men (cravate)

HIH

 

[Shqype]

Yes, as Anima_Croatorum pointed out:

About the tie. There is no indication that it was worn that early. First records about are from 16ct. And it was made popular in the centuries that followed. While there is no doubt that we invented the tie, the word itself might predate what it means now. There was a very similar french word that was used for ornaments worn on shirts and the word was later used to describe ties after Croatian mercinaries popularized them in Louis XIV's France.

 

[dinamo_18]

Well, I didn't know that, but anyway I don't think that is much important when you know that the only way to have, for an example Serbia and Croatia in one mod is to play LAnkou's Superciv mod, so maybe this is the question for him...

i dont play as croatia or serbia. if they were in a patch with yugoslavia i would love to destroy them. i like unleashing the hatered on other nations (mostly on america and asian civ's) that we unleashed on each other in the 90's.
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[Dr.Gonzo]

Anima, here's a link to the "U boj u boj" midi: http://www.filegone.com/kzgy

Unfortunately it's only 2 instrument version (two handed piano version to be exact), but it should do nicely.

 

[i101]

@Anima Croatorum: I was wondering about the City Names you have given. Fe. during King Tomislavs Time todays Bosnia and Herzegowina was under Croatian controll. So far I played using your mod i didnt noticed that some Bosnian City Names are used within the Game. Is this correct?

 

[Anima Croatorum]

Golden rule of political correctness: For existing states use only cities that are within their national borders today.

City list is composed of cities ranked by todays size(exception Sesvete, but on the list due to size), after that covered by tourist spots and islands and then cities that were missed out by international statistics for some reason.

 

[i101]

Sounds correct. Was just wondering how you handelt this 'City Question'.

Pozdrav.

 

[Italicus]

Very nice these mods, but how I can to integrate them maps of other scenarios?
For example, in a European Scenario with 10 civilization, how I add to these or others?

 

[TheJopa]

Di ste, zemljaci, dobro je znat da nas ima i na civ forumima

I will download this mod. Anyone creating domovinski rat mod?

 

[Anima Croatorum]

Very nice these mods, but how I can to integrate them maps of other scenarios?
For example, in a European Scenario with 10 civilization, how I add to these or others?

Never tried it. Maybe through world builder after loading a mod. Try working with LAnkou's Superciv, or perhaps analyze an existing similar mod to see what is needed.

Perhaps the main creation & customization forum is a better place to ask.

Di ste, zemljaci, dobro je znat da nas ima i na civ forumima

I will download this mod. Anyone creating domovinski rat mod?

Too fresh for my taste. My interests in historical mods lie before 1918.

 

[Reprisal]

I'm not exactly sure, but I remember reading somewhere that the Croatians were very well-known for the ferocity of their mounted troops in the late Medieval period. Is this true?

How might this be represented in the game? A unit replacing the knight?

 

[i101]

http://www.vojska.net/history/france/napoleon.asp

During the years of French ruling in Croatian-Slovenian parts, Croatians served in many French military formations. Napoleon was one of many rulers that were fascinated by Croatian war skills, he said to General Marmont: "I never had more braver and better soldiers". Napoleon also said this: "Croatians, there are best soldiers in the world. If I had only 100000 Croatians, I would conquer the entire world!".

http://www.hr/darko/etf/cravate.html

Two Croatian regiments of Royal Cravate were under the French flag in military operations undertaken by Napolen I in Russia. Especially important was their ensurance of Napoleon's retreat from Russia across Berezino in 1812/13. More than two thirds of the Croats lost their lives: 400 soldiers and 10 officers, plus 357 dead of famine and freezing. Only 296 survived. According to Marmont, Napoleon declared: ``I never had more curageous and better soldiers''. According to [Dolbeau], p 18, Napoleon addressed the following message to these 296 Croatian survivors:

Hier, j'ai pu m'assurer de mes propres yeux de votre courage et de votre fidélité. Vous avez acquis la gloire immortelle et l'estime, et je vous place parmi mes meilleurs troupes. Pour votre courage, je vous promets de vous accorder tout ce que vous me demanderez de bon droit lorsque nous serons de retour. Je suis satisfait de vous, très satisfait.

 

[Tomislav]

Bok ljudi

Lijepo je vidjeti zemljake i susjede na omiljenoj stranici!

Great job Anima Croatorum!

 

[Anima Croatorum]

I'm not exactly sure, but I remember reading somewhere that the Croatians were very well-known for the ferocity of their mounted troops in the late Medieval period. Is this true?

How might this be represented in the game? A unit replacing the knight?

Well... you know the light cavalry hussar that represent the Magyar UU. Well, the earliest one came from Croatia, then the light cavalry/raider irregulars called Pandur also came first from Croatia. In 30 years war light cavalry regiments were simply refered to as Croats. Most protestant prayers from that era were for God to protect them from plague, war and Croats.

 

[sadistiko]

In new 1.05 superciv is error with croatian leaders. Tomislav and Ban Jelacic doesn't have pictures. Must be some minor error in xml.

 

[Mr_V]

I think Lankou by mistake had DDS image files pointing to the wrong folder. It is very easy to correct, I did it last night. Apart from changing the path do DDS files, they themselves weren't there, I had to copy "Tomislav", "Ante" and "Josip" folders with DDS image from Anima's mod to Lankou's SuperCiv.

 

[sosco]

Zdravo Anima,

Tek sam sada vidio ovaj thread. Mislim da si napravio super posao s novim civama. Odmah cu skinut i probat igrat Hrvatsku i ostale civilizacije koje si napravio. U pocetku sam isto zasledio da ces (mozda) napravit i mod Slovenija. Ako trebas ikakvu pomoc s informacijama (zgodovinskim) pisi mi na mail asosco@hotmail.com ili ovde na forumu. Keep up the good work

Pozdrav iz SLO
Alex

 

[Mr_V]

In new 1.05 superciv is error with croatian leaders. Tomislav and Ban Jelacic doesn't have pictures. Must be some minor error in xml.

I don't have the original Lankou's SuperCIV any more, as I fixed it, but I think I can remember:
1. Make sure that folder

[B]Mods\SuperCiv_V1.05\assets\art\Interface\Leaderheads[/B]

have subfolders "Ante", "Josip", "Nikola", "Tomislav", and if not, copy them from Anima's Mod folder structure. Each subfolder should have just name and .dds file in there, ante.dds, josip.dds, nikola.dds and tomislav.dds

2. Edit the file

[B]Mods\SuperCiv_V1.05\assets\xml\art\CIV4Defines_Leaderhead.xml[/B]

Find entry ART_DEF_LEADER_CROAT_TOMISLAV
Correct the NIF line to read
<NIF>art/LeaderHeads/Tomislav/tomislav.dds</NIF>

3. Similar for the rest.

 

[Wei-Yan]

This mod is rocks!!! I got my best ever cive score wid them