Current (SVN) development discussion thread

[Swarbs]

A solution to this problem has already been introduced. Tiles outside of your cities' BFC still influence stability, but they have their own threshold. Their effect shows up as "Outer Territory" or something like that in the expansion tab of the stability advisor.

This seems like a perfectly good solution to me - in almost all my games, even when I have huge amounts of culture outside the BFC, "Outer Territory" only ever reaches about -10, whereas "City Territory", which I assume means BFC, can easily reach -60.

On another stability subject, what's the influence of religions on stability when running secularism? It seems to be -1 stability for every religion in every city, which seems a bit excessive. I had -57 stability from religions throughout my Prussia game after running secularism from the start.

Is there any way to counter this, other than switching back to a religious civic and running Persecutions?

 

[BenZL43]

After like weeks without updating the SVN, I have to say I am impressed.
The new loading screen background is awesome!!!
Also, Polish music is very cool

Curious, is that Hanging Garden the only loading screen, or is it randomly chosen from like, pools of loading screen background?

 

[Leoreth]

Yeah, I like the new loading screen, too. I found the image shortly after the first release and thought it captures the idea "Dawn of Civilization" pretty well.

 

[ImNotHere]

After like weeks without updating the SVN, I have to say I am impressed.
The new loading screen background is awesome!!!
Also, Polish music is very cool

Curious, is that Hanging Garden the only loading screen, or is it randomly chosen from like, pools of loading screen background?

It's the only one I've seen so far. I think it's the only one in there currently but I would support the addition of more beautiful images like that.

 

[Leoreth]

Oh, forgot to answer that. I don't think it's easily possible to rotate loading screens. And it's probably better to keep only one for better association, especially because I don't know any of comparable quality.

 

[Neshalin]

This one is really pretty.

 

[ace99]

Hey, I'm playing a Tibet game, and I have Burma and all of North India. Burma kind of sucks. Can you make it more useful? I have Rangoon and Mandalay.

 

[blizzrd]

Hey, I'm playing a Tibet game, and I have Burma and all of North India. Burma kind of sucks. Can you make it more useful? I have Rangoon and Mandalay.

Both India and Burma get much better with Biology. You might just have to wait.

 

[BenZL43]

Burma and India were beautiful even before Biology.
Perhaps something could be made to reflect the Rise and Fall of the region...

Let pre-Mughal era Burma rise become a great Buddhist learning center etc.. then fall as Mongol invade the land.. then let it become a wasteland.. until it rise again with Biology tech.

 

[Tigranes]

What is the conspiracy behind relieving America from it's starting Missionary? I was so used to it. One Nation under God, you know...

Buying Slaves from Dutch was really cool Slave button still shows white guy with chains, though. And why can't slaves improve terrain, albeit at half of the Worker's efficiency?

 

[Oregon Lee]

What is the conspiracy behind relieving America from it's starting Missionary? I was so used to it. One Nation under God, you know...

That wasn't added into the pledge of allegiance until 1954.

 

[Tigranes]

Well, still... Without exception, the Framers of Constitution were Christian or, at the very least, deists. There were no Jews or Muslims, no Hindus or atheists, and only two Roman Catholics.

 

[ace99]

The "Framers" aren't a generic mass of people with a hive mind.

 

[Hippo8085]

Religion spreads extremely easily to the Americas. No missionaries in secular society with scientific method. In the case of America, settlers are the religion spreaders.

 

[JiimBV]

In my latest game as Mali I opened worldbuilder on spawn to take a look at the world. Orthodoxy hadn't been founded yet, it didn't have a holy city. Yet Kiev was Orthodox. I assume it goes there automatically at a certain date? If so, that should be changed so it can't spread unless Orthodoxy has been founded.

 

[Locutus_Morti]

Yes, that problem appears for me as well. It seems to be a problem with the AI not building the AP.

 

[iOnlySignIn]

Russia (Human and AI) gets free Orthodox Missionaries some number of turns after spawn.

Orthodoxy should be auto-founded for the AI like Buddhism.

I suggest that if Orthodoxy is not founded until Russian spawn then it's auto-founded in Constantinople or Moscow (if Constantinople is razed/never founded).

 

[Pavel Chichikov]

I really dislike auto-spawns on principle, games should play naturally and shouldn't be forced to follow set pattern for every game.
edit: Also, The Greek Catholic Church predates the Roman by some years. Backing up:

Roughly the order goes as:
Judeo-Christianity
Greek Orthodox Church/Gnostic Sects
Schism of "Nestorian" Church, or the Persian/Syriac Churches
Arian Heresy
Schism of the "Monophysite" or Egyptian & Armenian Churches
Paulinate Heresy
Donatine-(ite?) Controversy
Schism of the Roman Church
Ikonoclast Controversy
Protestant Reformation
Centre of Greek Catholicism shifts to Moskva after Turkish Conquest
Old-Believer Controversy
Splintering of Protestantism into myriad interpretations, creeds & new religions such as Mormonism
Vatican II

 

[Zaduzai]

 

[calad]

Remember that early Popes were actually vassals of Byzantine Empire. So de jure Cathollic church did not exist before Greeks were expelled from Rome.