DaftCivNES

Hey,

Question Time.
Armies can't do anything to unclaimed resources, as there is noone working there, no mines, no fields, infrastructure etc, nothing to capture.

I believe that some resources could be captured. Acres of grapevines, herds of sheep, hunting grounds? If not I need to change my orders.


Thanks,
Blaze Injun
 
Maybe from an enemy where there are already people there. Without raw to capture, maybe that means there are good land for wild grapes, but no vinyards?
 
Hey,
Maybe from an enemy where there are already people there. Without raw to capture, maybe that means there are good land for wild grapes, but no vinyards?

Nitpicker. :D I said grapevines instead of wild grapes.

Besides I need to know if my orders need changed.



Blaze Injun
 
Well, if it is a wild patch with loots of grapes, you won't have neat rows of easily harvestable grapes: you have the possibility with lots of wild grapes to chop the hedges and forests out and establish a vinyard.

Maybe your army will chop out the woods? Maybe it will secure the grapes from barbarians? They can't cultivate the grapes I guess; that is what raw is fore.
 
the map seems to suggest that the barbs built some vineyards for you to claim so this is a mute point isn't it?

i.
 
Hey guys, apologies again, I'll answer all your questions and PM's after tommorrow's busy day at uni.
 
General: don't worry about having armies to guard each individual settlement. Armies will be able to 'intercept' each other quite well, so one can guard a large area. But obviously mutliple armies can deal with multiple threats at once.

Syce should have a religion.

Yeah I might have started the Bunjin with a free religion, so that is a little unfair. If the Syce specifically make a religion it will definately get a head start on the first turn.

Previously spearmen could be built with raw. In fact the rules still mention that this is possible. You may want to fix this.

I was thinking we would have seperate 'hoplites' or something, but now I think we have warriors include basic spearmen too. I've edited the front page.

Hey,

@Lord of Elves

Seeing that you are at the starting point you might follow what Daftpanzer said about camps. I took his advise & the extra raw helps alot. Another thing is if you use the raw to claim the horses you'll be able to have Horsemen & Horse Archers after thinking of a way to do it. ;)

But then again this is a testing NES so it might work now with camps 1st.

Blaze Injun

Yeah my idea is that the camps dont give any incomes at all, they just spread control/influence over the local area and could eventually mutate into free cities (which do the same + eco income). If you want to claim a far-away resource, it would help to build camps nearby first, but yeah those horses are already close enough to Golreda.

cool. i bet religion and the diplomatic trait helped.

Yep!

Could a nation use either of these orders to try and subvert an NPC city/camp and make it part of their own nation? If so, how many points would you need approximately to hope for success (assume the nation is not 'diplomatic').

Yes but it all depends :p Some have been assimilated for just 1 command point so far.

Orders
1. Use one command to move civics toward centralized
2. Use one raw to build a camp south of Cortha towards the cows. Preferred Name: Sura

@lopaz, again maybe you just want to Raw: -> claim those cows, so you get income? Its close enough to Cortha, but also close to the Marrack tribe... so maybe try to influence them or move your army south a bit, you see?

Kideajin: Omega124
Culture: chiefly Iroquois, with elements of other Northeast Natives
Traits: Expansionistic, Diplomatic
Com / Raw / Eco: 1 / 2 / 0
Military: 2 Warriors, 1 Archer
Civics: +1 Decentralised, +1 Freedom
Techs: Mysticism, Alphabet

Spoiler Orders :
+1 Command increasing my army's quality
+1 Claiming the Berries
+1 Building a Camp at the berries


To: Orn
From: Kideajin

Hello, strangers from the north. We are the Kideajin, the people of the forest. We come in no harm, ad wish for everlasting peace. Do you agree?

@Omega, the berries are already claimed by white NPC, sorry if thats not clear. To the west, gold and deer are in reach of your existing camps, if you want to claim one of those (they are unclaimed / no little dots on them).

Hey,

Question Time.


I believe that some resources could be captured. Acres of grapevines, herds of sheep, hunting grounds? If not I need to change my orders.


Thanks,
Blaze Injun

the map seems to suggest that the barbs built some vineyards for you to claim so this is a mute point isn't it?

i.

Yeah what I mean is, if there is an ownership dot next to the resource, then it means some people are already working there, and you can just take over production. So yeah, the NPC town of Turawa is working those berries, and you can capture them with your army, provided Turawa army is kept at bay (it has unkown but likely small number of units).

If there is no dot, nobody is there working the resource, and your army can't capture anything, you have to set up your own production.

Diplo responses coming soon!
 
I have amended my orders based on your responses to my questions. Please delete the first order set and use only the second.

Thank you for your kind attention.
 
the real one is here
 
Diplomacy:

To the Kyungs [Chieftains] of Caera, Hayce, Raen, Hvui, Mvui (respectively):

Trade between our peoples have become profitable and strong. I wish to maintain and encourage trade and our relations. I offer a promise of peace and open trade to you so that we may strengthen our bonds and wealth. We hope you will offer us the same.

--Kyung Hehari, of Ymo

Hvui and Mvui seem neutral

Caera seems friendly

Hayce seems neutral

Raen says: the gold mines are in territory that is rightfully ours (so we claim). Grant us control of the mines, and we will be your eternal allies...
 
Hey Daft,

Looks like things are slowing down for you.

I'm not going to ask when the update is going to be but i will ask, "Are you still motivated and eager to moderate this NES?" I can only hope that you are and that your uncharacteristic silence is not a reflection of waning interest but merely of a busy halloween schedule.

Happy halloween 'all!

happy-halloween-fat-guy-ass-pumpkin.jpg
 
motivated TICK
eager TICK

For me its about the funnest and easiest thing I've done on the forum. I'm not procrastinating this time, I've just got that much RL stuff going on at the moment, very unusual for me :)

Trying not to look at your picture BTW
 
I'm eager to see what was in Nuclear Kid's orders.
 
Daft, if you ever get back to this forum, can you send me your sprite gallery if its not too much work. My e-mail is philgob (at) hotmail (dot) com.
 
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