Kouvb593kdnuewnd
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They all more or less assume that this is civilization V+ edition or something like that and make mistakes according to that.
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I'm pretty sure he wasn't looking for bugs, more like "will he accept 100g for it", "ok will he accept 10", "haha he is stupid let me offer him 1g for his great work".
If you want to find bugs you don't abuse them to gain an advantage. I just find it boring, I mean you're already playing at prince with a less than optimal AI, basically stealing their great works feel bad man.
Kouvb593kdnuewnd
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Filthy Robot said something like prince ai is so helpless.
I guess people could give the ai like a 50-100 turn head start and still pull out wins.
I guess people could give the ai like a 50-100 turn head start and still pull out wins.
Yes. Although its possible, even likely that they will be iterating on the AI once all the features were completed - at least that's what one hopes.
It feels like the current civ6 AI is just a ported civ5 AI with some tactical changes (such as move and shoot for ranged units), and no strategic adjustments made for the civ6 features.
It feels like the current civ6 AI is just a ported civ5 AI with some tactical changes (such as move and shoot for ranged units), and no strategic adjustments made for the civ6 features.
criZp
Deity
Quill's voice don't irritate you lol. Listening to him is like reading a text with all caps and zero punctuation.Try Quill18's Rome LP. He's entertaining to watch and generally knows what he's doing. He's also a serious warmonger who ignores culture and wonders, which frustrates me as a culture player/builder, but he knows what he's doing and so far he's the only streamer I've found whose voice doesn't irritate me.
pietro1990
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marborzir plays civ 5 on deity so he knows how to play civ 5 would watch his video's he explains a lot
completed lets play:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHQyGGzRHYIZxZEW50NCCxNt-SZb29tdk
current lets play:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHQyGGzRHYIawuDiW6A1OvTUjK5-KlFl2
completed lets play:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHQyGGzRHYIZxZEW50NCCxNt-SZb29tdk
current lets play:
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHQyGGzRHYIawuDiW6A1OvTUjK5-KlFl2
Well, apparently some people don't want to tear out their ears when Sarah narrates the First Look videos, so...
Mustakrakish
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1. Marbozir is ok...ish I guess, but boring.
2. Quill is alright, a bit entertaining even.
3. FilthyRobot is downright annoying to watch. Yes, he's a good V player and all, but as someone already pointed out, his refusal to learn simple stuff is infuriating... and he's just boring.
4. Arumba meh.
5. Yogcast (or whatever it's called) are quite entertaining and easy to watch. Their Norway play is quite fun to watch. They make mistakes but realise them soon after, nothing major. Downside is that they're releasing one 20 min episode per day or even every 2nd day, which I think is ridiculous. They'll be "milking that cow" until release it seems. I sure will not be watching their episodes that long. Probably forget about them in a few days, but hey if that model works for them...
6. TotalBiscuit is a wildcard. He is very bad. Very bad, constantly makes mistakes that will make you scream at your screen in frustration. The first thing he does in his England play when he starts at a coastal river tile is... he moves away from the river and settles
then struggles with housing for the rest of the game. But he's so bad it's actually pretty funny and entertaining. His England and Japan plays can be found on youtube and so far is the only ones I watched till the end of all the lets plays I tried.
2. Quill is alright, a bit entertaining even.
3. FilthyRobot is downright annoying to watch. Yes, he's a good V player and all, but as someone already pointed out, his refusal to learn simple stuff is infuriating... and he's just boring.
4. Arumba meh.
5. Yogcast (or whatever it's called) are quite entertaining and easy to watch. Their Norway play is quite fun to watch. They make mistakes but realise them soon after, nothing major. Downside is that they're releasing one 20 min episode per day or even every 2nd day, which I think is ridiculous. They'll be "milking that cow" until release it seems. I sure will not be watching their episodes that long. Probably forget about them in a few days, but hey if that model works for them...
6. TotalBiscuit is a wildcard. He is very bad. Very bad, constantly makes mistakes that will make you scream at your screen in frustration. The first thing he does in his England play when he starts at a coastal river tile is... he moves away from the river and settles
then struggles with housing for the rest of the game. But he's so bad it's actually pretty funny and entertaining. His England and Japan plays can be found on youtube and so far is the only ones I watched till the end of all the lets plays I tried.
Stilgar08
Emperor
This! Exactly! Bugs me off...
Writing Bull is decent, (German), but sometimes VERY slow and has trouble to decide. Most of the time he knows what he's doing... The greek game on his channel is done by Piruparka, haven't checked him out yet, but I think he should be good as well.
King Jason
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I can't watch Filthy above all of the other's because he seems virtually incapable of being able to talk and play the game at the same time. His starts take forever.
I actually enjoy the Yogscast guys the most because I don't expect them to play the game well and they're just a riot to listen to. With a guy like filthy, who you'd expect to be good at the game because he's an expert level civ5 player, you spend half the time pulling your hair out over his complete lack of reading comprehension or situational awareness.
It has nothing to do with the game being new either. When someone reads the boost to irrigation out loud, "Farm a Resource" and then says they should get some farms online, despite having no farmable resources; proceeding to farm a grassland tile and then spend 2+ minutes trying to figure out why they didn't get a boost, including going back to the original tooltip and reading "Farm a resource" out loud again and asking to themselves, "Does a grassland tile not count as a resource?" - I become far more frustrated as a viewer than is remotely normal. Admittedly, Filthy seems to do this less in recent videos but really you shouldn't need "chat" to tell you what a tooltip that you just read 4 times actually does. That's entirely different than not noticing a goody hut or something - while as a viewer that can be frustrating, I get it; they are a little hard to spot.
Quill18 is okay, except for the fact that he just blatantly makes stuff up a lot. Well, he did in the first few videos, I've stopped watching him too.
Basically, in my opinion - pick the people that don't act like they know what they're doing (when they don't) and you'll probably be the most satisfied with the experience.
I actually enjoy the Yogscast guys the most because I don't expect them to play the game well and they're just a riot to listen to. With a guy like filthy, who you'd expect to be good at the game because he's an expert level civ5 player, you spend half the time pulling your hair out over his complete lack of reading comprehension or situational awareness.
It has nothing to do with the game being new either. When someone reads the boost to irrigation out loud, "Farm a Resource" and then says they should get some farms online, despite having no farmable resources; proceeding to farm a grassland tile and then spend 2+ minutes trying to figure out why they didn't get a boost, including going back to the original tooltip and reading "Farm a resource" out loud again and asking to themselves, "Does a grassland tile not count as a resource?" - I become far more frustrated as a viewer than is remotely normal. Admittedly, Filthy seems to do this less in recent videos but really you shouldn't need "chat" to tell you what a tooltip that you just read 4 times actually does. That's entirely different than not noticing a goody hut or something - while as a viewer that can be frustrating, I get it; they are a little hard to spot.
Quill18 is okay, except for the fact that he just blatantly makes stuff up a lot. Well, he did in the first few videos, I've stopped watching him too.
Basically, in my opinion - pick the people that don't act like they know what they're doing (when they don't) and you'll probably be the most satisfied with the experience.
Try Drew Durnil, this guy is really good and entertainig....not many people mentioned him but i think his LP are worth:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPcABVoFfCK5gDfX0PY1KGg
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPcABVoFfCK5gDfX0PY1KGg
Silverdawn
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Try the Day 6 German one. He builds a "wide" empire, gets a lot of Great People and goes for a Space Victory. He doesn't initiate any wars because the AI can't compete in the build. He's playing it to understand the systems, not to win as early as he can.
He doesn't know everything the most avid reader here might, but he does experiment with various things and does learn. For instance, from Quill's game I knew Apostles could heal adjacent to a Holy Site not just on it. Filthy notices that it happens while he has several apostles around Holy Site--prior to that he had been sending them only to the district itself. From then on he takes that into account. [He doesn't know yet that Inquistors are good for defensive religious fights in your territory yet (he just used them to remove religions).] There will still be some cases where he misses things in tooltips.
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Balkans
Warlord
All the guys that got early access present the same stuff in a different way. If you want to see what new civ 6 is all about it really doesn't even matter who you watch. Game is on fairly easy difficulty so we can't really draw any decent conclusions about anything but we can see all the mechanics and get to know how they play out.
Also most of the guys are practically testing the game mechanics, nobody is really playing it to beat the AI or to take advantage of anything...
Also most of the guys are practically testing the game mechanics, nobody is really playing it to beat the AI or to take advantage of anything...
For me, that would be Quill's Rome video.
In the first few videos he quickly eliminates two civilizations from the game.
Later on, you repeatedly see what not to do with regards to the barbarians, which teaches the lesson more effectively than having played correctly:
He didn't keep military units in or near his northern cities and compounded this by not having a garrison unit either in or near them, which resulted in barbs pillaging tile improvements & districts in the north along with multiple trade routes plundered.
He stopped exploration of his starting landmass very early; and so his northeast city had all sea resources + its Harbor district pillaged; which stayed in this state a very long time.
He let a road segment used by several of his internal trade units be within fog in war (by neither founding an infill city nor even placing a unit there); which resulted in a camp founding in one of those fog of war tiles adjoiing his visibility and the barb scout instantly seeing his cities resulting in the instant wave to knock out three of his trade units.
In the first few videos he quickly eliminates two civilizations from the game.
Later on, you repeatedly see what not to do with regards to the barbarians, which teaches the lesson more effectively than having played correctly:
He didn't keep military units in or near his northern cities and compounded this by not having a garrison unit either in or near them, which resulted in barbs pillaging tile improvements & districts in the north along with multiple trade routes plundered.
He stopped exploration of his starting landmass very early; and so his northeast city had all sea resources + its Harbor district pillaged; which stayed in this state a very long time.
He let a road segment used by several of his internal trade units be within fog in war (by neither founding an infill city nor even placing a unit there); which resulted in a camp founding in one of those fog of war tiles adjoiing his visibility and the barb scout instantly seeing his cities resulting in the instant wave to knock out three of his trade units.
Mercade
the Counsellor
This. Marbozir is a good player, but his narrative annoys the hell out of me after 5 minutes. Quill18 is good and has a neutral voice.Try Quill18's Rome LP. He's entertaining to watch and generally knows what he's doing. He's also a serious warmonger who ignores culture and wonders, which frustrates me as a culture player/builder, but he knows what he's doing and so far he's the only streamer I've found whose voice doesn't irritate me.
alaric1112
Chieftain
Gamerzakh he has not done any let's plays yet but he has quite a few good CIV 6 video's here is his latest.
well Filthy had said because his viewers wanted to see him learn as he stream, so that's what we get, but its cool seeing his vids from Day 1 to the latest one, as you can see he is really getting into the groove with all the knowledge accumulated throughout all the series
Foulweather
Warlord
I find Drew Durnil on YouTube to be a good combination of entertaining and knowledgeable about Civ. I've watched his religious play through with America, and he's just starting a domination play with Japan on archipelago, and he also has one with Germany where he experiments with attacking city states. I'd recommend him. He also has a good series of breakdowns on each civ, explaining abilities and likely strategies.
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