Defeating Japan woes.

Emperor Wolfie

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Hello boy's ang girls. Yes your sheep were tasty *burp* I thank you for fattening them up.. Anyway i need your help!

I've started a game as the Icans. I'm at Warlord Level with continents and a low sea level. I'm aiming for a domination victory. I'm setting a nice CE in my Captial:
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I have to other cities. One south west of the cap and one far west. The far west one is near to Japanise. As the Japanise built thier second city very close, i(with axemen and(early copper ftw!) Incan UU's) helped them by razing it.(I only needed one Axeman since they just a wariror there) After that i got another axemen, three Incan UU and pillaged thier improvements.(They had boxed themselves in) After all improvements were destroyed i gathered my troops and prepered for the final strike. Problem is they have four archers and the city is on a hill! I can't win it(i tested it) with my units. The Ican UU's are quite fresh and without good promotions.
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I tried to get Cyrus and Monty to help with this but niether had really seen Japan before. Though both are annoyed at each other. ATM i'm researching Ironworks.

So, what should i do. Should i keep building up and zerg rush Japan or should i get cats and knights? Or should i leave Japan altogether and go after Mony or Cyrus with one of them on my side?

PS: If you help me i'll put Monty's nukes away and send him to bed early!:king:
 
no reason to wait until guilds. swordsmen should work fine with 40% cultural defense. if you can bring in cats to the fun, do so. don't forget to hook up the stone! If you can, convert to hinduism to keep monty off your back. you won't need to go to war with either of them for some time, so take your time wiping out Toku. If you need a respite, call toku and see what he'll cough up for peace. also, you may want to whip that settler soon.
 
Do you have Hunting ( it obsoletes quechuas ) ? If not produce ( with :whipped: overflow if necessary) a good number of them (in your situation, maybe 2,5/3 for every archer in Kyoto) and strike. In between pilage all of Japan that you can and prepare to catch runaway archer+settler teams ( free worker + one less city to conquer ). In last case ( another party attacks you ) call for a ceasefire and attack when ready.

EDIT: Maybe your axemen and quechuas should have City Raider I or cover. You haven't done a barracks in your capitol, haven't you :nono: ? Barracks worth every :hammers: you spent on them; they save lots of ( your soldiers :D ) lifes.
 
Hackapell:

Good ideas.

r_rolo1: Yeah i have hunting. Wouldent be much of a wolf without it. Got free from a nice goodie hut! I do a a barraks in in my Cap but i've given my Axemen the wrong promotion. They have the 25% melee one. The Incan Quechuas are from the west city that only just has its barracks built.

I'll try out waiting or zerg rushing Japan.
 
Then axes ( 2/3 per city archer ) . Cover or ( my favourite ) CR I. Or produce quechuas in a unconnected city (no cooper = no spears) and resume my original plan.
 
Start building CR1 and then CR2 axes with promotions. You will need a few of them but they do the job. Of course swordsman and cats would make it easier.
 
assuming you dont have hunting you should be able to still produce quechas... Just produce 5-10 more quechas in 5 turns... no reason whatsoever to decleare war before you are ready to take cities, against the AI anyways...
 
Yes! I did it! With the power of axemen,whipping,UU's and overwhelming tactics i took them out! I spared thier capital. It'll make a nice holiday home!:king:
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They seemed to send arches too scout so they became easy picking's. Getting an Axeman unit in one turn with CSR:I helped alot!:lol:

Now i'm going to ruin Monty! Cyrus is annoyed and Monty does not have many units.(Two arches in his captital!):)
 
Don't finish Monty if there isn't anyone else in your continent, because if you do that Cyrus won't tech trade with you ( AI only tech trade iwith youf they know other alive civ). Of course you can finish them both ... eheheh ( says he with a devilish spark in is eyes :lol:
 
If i may ask why dont the archers holding both city garrison 1 and drill 1 promotions Tokugawa is aggrasive and Protective after all so i was wondering as it seems slightly odd.
 
If i may ask why dont the archers holding both city garrison 1 and drill 1 promotions Tokugawa is aggrasive and Protective after all so i was wondering as it seems slightly odd.

I have one word for you, just one word : Vanilla :p ( in vanilla Toku is Agg/Org, remember?)
 
Heh! nice work, Emporer Wolfie!

Again, I repeat my call not to go to war with monty. convert to his religion to keep him off you, and plan to take alll the land between you and him. again, no reason to got to war with such a distant enemy. get an empire first, then go conquering:hammer:
 
I must have forgot about UUs were in the first vertion and not added with warlords then ok my mistake thanks for reminding my anyway.
 
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