Defining our provinces

[Sir John]

I think that the best would be tiny provinces. I know that this would give us some bad things but it will also give good things:

1. Easier for the governors

2. More people can be governors (and it wont be to hard either)

3. It would be more "agile" to place new provinces as we can have smaller areas ( one single valley for example) as provinces...

 

[Almightyjosh]

Originally posted by Shaitan
That's a good idea, d8575, and it's been attempted before. The problem is that once provinces are established they tend to form a sort of mini-nationalism and there is great resistance to changing their borders.

Well, it's not so hard to change the borders in outlying provinces that have few citizens and little history, but if you try and mess with the core provinces every turn and sever people from thier home province you are likely to get some provincialists (I think thats a new word) very angry indeed.

 

[Chieftess]

Originally posted by Almightyjosh


Well, it's not so hard to change the borders in outlying provinces that have few citizens and little history, but if you try and mess with the core provinces every turn and sever people from thier home province you are likely to get some provincialists (I think thats a new word) very angry indeed.

Are those mini.. umm....

Anyway, I'll be sure you get the Lands of Egypt in the future. Whether or not it's more that 10 cities.

 

[Almightyjosh]

This, for discussion:

 

[Rik Meleet]

Before I can judge it properly, please include our Western Empire as well. At first glance it looks ok, but To Dye For is small compared to New Egypt. In that view the green teritory shoud definetly not go to New Egypt. Not sure if I like it this way.

 

[Chieftess]

Had my computer not decided it wanted to spend 6 hours searching for non-existant bad sectors, I could have made one yesterday... Today, I have a family outing to go to... So, I'll try this evening.

 

[Almightyjosh]

OK, here's a re-vamped version of the plan above. It includes the West and 'Old Egypt is a bit smaller. Note that OE is mostly mountains, so it should be a little bigger. To dye for looks smaller, but will actually have as many, or more, cities as the other provinces!!

Didn't work... try the ZIP!

The Map

 

[Bootstoots]

I like that province proposal. I think the lack of discussion indicates the same. I think you should poll it ASAP.

 

[Almightyjosh]

Hmmm, I'll give it a little longer, I would really like to get a map that works, but I don't have photoshop!

 

[Peri]

Apologies for being a wet blanket but what is the argument against defining one province at a time? We only have one province worth of cities at the moment. Should we not wait until we have actually subdued these places first since we might want to found new cities and such like?

 

[Almightyjosh]

Long exeperience has taught us that it is most wise to have provinces pre-determined. We already have a pretty good idea of where our cities will be, and it is much easier to determine an overall structure for provincial borders in advance. Pre-determined borders allow a degree of certanty in govorning, as well as saving us the trouble of having to come up with blueprints for every new province. After all, the 'borders' of one province are also the borders of the next. We must prepare our bordes with an overall strategy in mind, or fact incoherant and inneffectual provincial borders.

 

[Sir John]

I agree to your prop AJ. I like it. I voted for even smaller provonces but what the heck. I like its good. Poll it.

 

[disorganizer]

also looks good to mee, but i could imagine a old-greece borderline more "in the middle of the mountains" in its north, including the sole tile surrounded by the mountians.

but yes, in general this proposla looks good...

go forward for a poll with all discussed options, we need those borders soon enough...

but make sure to post it as jpg or png or something most people can view with their browser
it would also be nice to put it on the upload-server and link an img-tag so a smaller overview version (thumbnail) and a url-link to a big version ;-) and preferrably not zipped.

 

[Rik Meleet]

It's a start. I like the general idea, but I see discussions coming up later on hte exact tile-by-tile bordersof provinces. In general I like it.

 

[Sir John]

@Dis: Try ro say it with me:

W - I - N - Z - I - P

And Now fast: Winzip, Wiiiinziiip. Winzip.

Heard about that before

BTW: Also: WiiiinRaaaar

 

[disorganizer]

sj: its easier to click and see than to download and extract and then click and then see. also if you use other formats than bmp (aj, you should use png or jpg) the files will not be too much bigger...

 

[Almightyjosh]

The problem is that the file is about 7mb and won't upload without zipping! Alright, I'm gonna go and buy Photoshop now and see what I can do...

 

[disorganizer]

AJ: hmmm. so dont use BMP as format *rofl* and if you use the upload-feature and link to the file you can also put up more than 700k

 

[Bootstoots]

Just save it as a jpg file.

 

[Ehecatl Atzin]

So... where can I find a defined provincial map? is there one yet or is the discussion still going on? yes, I know I should look for it in the forums and threads and read and stuff...but I'm lazy and hopeless and weak! hahahahaha

EA