Diplo for TNT

[Sir Bugsy]

good intel Tubby. Actually that's the first real insight we have had into that team.

I'd say for the time being let's proceed on the present course. Wouldn't it be nice if TNT presented some nice skirmishing targets?

 

[Admiral Kutzov]

any insight into how good simon is?

 

[Tubby Rower]

Mistfit was talking to him about some avatar stuff and Kevin asked him which direction that we should head and he said east ... he has a sense of humor. He's 18 yo if that matters to anyone.

 

[Whomp]

Simon BCLG recently was smack talking about civ and I threw down the gauntlet to play him mano a mano in a civ3 or 4 pbem. He did not respond so I don't think he has that much confidence in his skills if he won't take me on.

If TNT was smart they'd let Tim Bentley take over but they have not. Tim is not confrontational so I think he backs down from the big mouths.

In the meantime, Swinque at CDZ was perusing the forums at CFC and found the Ironic Bible to be amusing and posted in the Great Meleet's forum. BCLG, Tubby and I have been going back and forth on the current war so I'll keep prodding him for more info in this thread.

http://civ3duelzone.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3483

 

[Tubby Rower]

I don't think he has that much confidence in his skills if he won't take me on.

either that or you've somehow have him fooled that you are good

 

[Daghdha]

Simon wonders where we think their troops are. I'd say down sout waiting for their continental "friends" to come knock, knock

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Simon wonders where we think their troops are. I'd say down south waiting for their continental "friends" to come knock, knock

Planting that idea in their heads is a very good idea. If we can keep their forces split, we will have a distinct advantage.

So with that thought -
- How about if we have the Donuts stop talking to them altogether. Tell them that they can help us with some psychological warfare.

- Ask them to do some "demonstrations" and place a few troops right on the TNT/Donutian frontier.

- Plant the idea in TNT's head that we have a RoP with Donuts and that we are a threat. That we plan on capturing boarder towns and gifting them immediately to Donuts.

 

[gmaharriet]

- How about if we have the Donuts stop talking to them altogether. Tell them that they can help us with some psychological warfare.

- Ask them to do some "demonstrations" and place a few troops right on the TNT/Donutian frontier.

- Plant the idea in TNT's head that we have a RoP with Donuts and that we are a threat. That we plan on capturing boarder towns and gifting them immediately to Donuts.

Oooooh, if we can get D'nuts to go along, that's diabolical, Bugs!!!

 

[scoutsout]

Diabolical is one of the things I like about Bugs.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

yeah, that's me.

 

[Daghdha]

I put this up for feedback:

Most respected Doughnutians

You were asking if we had run out of options on the dyes deal. We think not. Something that would be helpful in our re-making of Persia is some psychological warfare, and here you have a part to play.

1. Close down communications with TNT for 20 turns, all of them.
2. Flaunt some troops at their south border.

If you do this, you would get our fine dyes for 20 turns.

Cheers
KISS dept of psych warfare

 

[Tubby Rower]

sounds good to me. maybe add something in there about a "farewell message" as they prolly don't chat over a cup of joe. The farewell message could read something like "We will enjoy your cities once they have been liberated and given back to their proper owners"

 

[Sir Bugsy]

Since we already sent them the dyes, we are probably relying on their good will.

 

[Tubby Rower]

I posted a PM to the Doughnutians and forgot about this (because it wasn't in the Diplo for D'nut thread) ... I'd bet that they'd still go for it.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

That's because I'm old and can't remember where I'm posting.

 

[Kickbooti]

I've checked the Ruleset and can't find anything to preclude this, so I have an idea...

Might we get TNT to surrender to us?

Given the Real Word dissatisfaction that seems apparent, combined with a few over-stated proposals 'from the Nuts' about grinding TNT into dust, plus an offer to open-eared members TNT to join the idiodic fun we have here in KISS-land, could we get them to GIVE us their country? After all, who likes to fight an obviously lost battle?

We could make the historical analogy of Axis units rushing West to surrender to British/US troops rather than Soviet. Would TNT rather join the Nuts (who hate them) or KISS, who will forgive them after a few drinks?

It is a long shot, but is it possible/permissable?

I would love to have a nice, pre-developed territory on Battle Isle. And while their dotmaping skills don't match what is on our Team (therefore making it the perpetual 'wrong side of the tracks'), still it would be somthing to add eight or so cities in one grand sweep.

Just wondering.

 

[gmaharriet]

I can't recall if there was ever a final determination from the admins about what would happen to the members of a losing team in the discussion about it a few months back.

I also wonder if TNT might be just a bit annoyed with us for attacking them. They may prefer to surrender to D'nuts (if at all to anyone) because, although D'nuts won the battle, they weren't the aggressors. This time we are.

It's too bad we've never had a close diplo relationship with TNT. Who would our diplomats talk to on their team?

 

[Whomp]

A pm I sent to Regent Man and Ginger Ale asking about having Donut investigate cities.

I want to pm you just to make sure we are not exploiting any of the rules. If we have Donut investigate a TNT city and they describe what they see to us I assume this would be within the rules.

Please advise.
Thanks and Happy Easter.
Whomper

And the response...

Yes, as long as it is verbal and there are no images/screenshots.

Here's the rule.

Spoiler :

1.6 - Invalid Map Trading

Spoiler:

Description: No team or individual is permitted to barter, gift, or otherwise trade any sort of map, whether it be a screen shot, minimap, hand drawing, or any other 'picture' of the in-game map, mini-map, or embassy screenshot before the requisite tech is discovered. Verbal/text descriptions are allowed, but coordinates are not.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

So we can have the donuts look at Dancing Banana and tell us what kind of defense they see. This would be very helpful.

 

[Sir Bugsy]

During my Easter dinner with my in-laws I had an idea. (Yeah, I know ) Anyway. We could offer TNT a peace treaty where they have to abandon two of their cities in the north or east (perhaps their iron city and the city SE of their capitol) and promise not to settle east of a certain line for 20 turns or so. That would allow us to establish a firm toehold.