Per Leoreth's request (here), this is a discussion thread for re-introducing the National and Heroic Epics back into the mod. Specifically, these would be actions performed by Great Artists ('Compose National Epic'/'Compose Heroic Epic') that would be intended to have a 'wide' effect on the entire civ (rather than the original 'tall' effect limited to a single city). Main points for discussion: 1) What particular effect should these epics have? (These effects would be common to all civs; Leoreth didn't approve of giving each civ's epic a unique effect). 2) Each civilization should be paired with at least one unique epic (Greece with the Iliad, India with the Ramayana, etc.) Ideally, each civ could be paired with two epics, one corresponding to the 'National Epic' model (culture and great people) while the other serves as a 'Heroic Epic' (military). What epics should be paired with each civ? 3) Each unique epic should also be paired with a background image and text that could go on a splash screen for when the epic is completed. What images and quotes would you suggest for each epic? EDIT: Here's a Google Doc so we can collaborate on the final list. Thanks @freethink!