Do NOT call it "MAC"!

While we are on the subject...

Mac is not an acronym while PC is. So when the two systems are used in a sentence together why isn't it Mac vs. Win, both short for their OS name? Macs are Personal computers. Some where along the line Win computers where replaced with PC, so what are Mac's, Impersonal Computers?!

n8mac (not n8MAC he,he)
 
lol.... A Mac user complained to me about that once so I only use "Mac" now. ;)

Mac users are very sensitive people. ;) :D
 
Originally posted by n8mac
While we are on the subject...

Mac is not an acronym while PC is. So when the two systems are used in a sentence together why isn't it Mac vs. Win, both short for their OS name? Macs are Personal computers. Some where along the line Win computers [were] replaced with PC, so [why] are Macs, Impersonal Computers?!

n8mac (not n8MAC he,he)

As I said before, a Macintosh really is a PC. Back in the early 80s, as IBM released their personal computer, others soon followed, being called as "IBM-Compatible PCs".

Because of the many, many IBM-Comptabile PCs that existed, each one had its different name. Many used a label such as "100% IBM Compatible," or something to that degree - that probably came with either DOS or Windows.

Whereas the Macintosh was unique, for that it had its own hardware that ran its own operating system.

So how do you differentiate all those IBM compatible machines compared to the Macintoshes?

Since the Macintosh had the strongest brand label (or possibly second to IBM) and IBM clones continued to produce like rabbits, it was only natural to simply refer to them as "PCs," since Macs were very distinctive in the first place. This is why, in this context, a Mac isn't a PC.

PCs collectively weren't named "Windows machines" or what have you, since many people were still running only DOS, even for years after Windows was released.

Nowadays, many of them have been dubbed "Wintels" (Windows + Intel processor), but with AMD, and with the Linux revolution, you can no longer say that about all these BIOS-running computers.

And actually, there is a "Mac vs. Win" comparison as in the OS war. But again, Linux exists, as does OS/2, Amiga OS, BeOS, NeXT, and many UNIX varieties such as AIX, BSD, and Solaris, so you cannot make the connection that all PCs run Windows, because that's simply not true.

So, is a Mac a PC? Of course it is - it is a personal computer. After all, Apple was the one who created one of the first (if not the first - this is debatable) personal computers with the Apple computer in 1977.

Basically, you end up finding that those IBM-like personal computers had no name to call themselves as a whole, and the Mac had no name for its operating system (except "System").


But that was largely unimportant back then in the 80s - to most, they were simply just called "computers."
 
Originally posted by thunderfall
Mac users are very sensitive people.

Yes, we are sensitive, CASE SENSITIVE! :lol: . Actually its because we only have 5% market share and feel we have to defend our computers and name for a constant fear of an unjustified loss of what we feel as the better machine. I try to never take it personal though. As long as they sell them I am happy.

Originally posted by ancestral
And actually, there is a "Mac vs. Win" comparison as in the OS war. But again, Linux exists, as does OS/2, Amiga OS, BeOS, NeXT, and many UNIX varieties such as AIX, BSD, and Solaris, so you cannot make the connection that all PCs run Windows, because that's simply not true.

Yes, it does get confusing comparing one company vs. multiple companies. Even more confusing now that OS X is on top of Unix. I guess it depends on the topic at hand. In the game world it usually comes to Mac and Win. I just get confused. Sometimes I see or hear the Mac refered to as a PC and then I see Mac vs. PC. I always have to figure out what people are refering to first. At least when you here Mac you know what you've got:goodjob: .
 
The issue is a matter of proportion and scale, and no countries are going to be toppled by it, but (and pardon if I insult anyone) an indication of a lack of consideration and understanding and simply a failure to make communication of the written word important.

For the record, I agree, but thats because I'm anal and I think you all should be anal too! ;)

Typically, you probably won't see Mac and MAC confused anywhere, but it annoys me to no end to because its just a lack of understanding. What weird habit makes someone believe it should be MAC when there is no popular media either in print or online that says it any other way? Could the first post have been put a little better? Yes, but that doesn't change the fact that he's right :)

Here's a weird anal geek example. My company integrates with a PC software package called Jetform. People, both customers and in the company, randomly call it Jetforms. They can't wrap their head around the idea that there is no S on the documentation they get with this package! Jetform Jetform Jetform!

The reason why it makes me mad is its laziness of mind. MAC, Jetforms, its still wrong, please don't be lazy.

If someone pronounced it McIntosh you'd probably see just the same outcry, its just for some reason people don't deem it as important if its just not written right!
 
Originally posted by dojoboy
Do we have the power to make MAC an ancronym? Can we muster up enough influence?

Macintosh Apple Computers (MAC) ;)

My Apple Computer

(Hmm... that might not be such a good idea... I still own and occasionally use my Apple IIc, IIe, and II plus... those *are*, after all, Apple computers as well.

I'll just shut up.
 
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