Do you have a coherent ideology?
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madviking
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eh this is why i'm a philo minor not a philo major, so bear with me.
i dunno you ask me.
you can still have bad (meaingless) sex.
Timsup2nothin
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Of course. I'm always willing. Eager even. The only thing better than bad meaningless sex is good meaningful sex, but that's not always available.
Angst
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We don't deserve to deserve things, neither do we deserve to know what we deserve.
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Angst
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We're obviously not good enough. Therefore we don't deserve deserving or the understanding of deserving.
Angst
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What's left to think about? We bathe in Heaven's wrath. We could've had Eden, but we are not to have it. Whether it's God's will or ours, we are without the right to good.
67% ???
Ha, what!?!
I think of myself as reasonably consistent!
Then why do I cry afterwards?
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Well, thanks for clearing up the ambiguity.
As for this post of yours, I find it terribly depressing.
Can't I just continue being unreasonably happy instead? I prefer it. And I think the people I encounter prefer it.
Terxpahseyton
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Because your wife is a bit too serious about the nipple-twisting business?
My issue isn't that you do not have all the right answers, but the attitude vibe I got from you. It seemed rather arrogant without even bothering to really back it up.
Angst
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The post was a joke, but YES do be unreasonably happy. I am too.
timtofly
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Why can't one be reasonably happy?
You can but its a limiting yourself...
We dont deserve what we dont need.
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Because people always bring up what a miserable place, and so full of suffering, the world is. And it does often seem that way, doesn't it?
My point is that being unhappy doesn't make the world a better place. Nor does being happy, I guess. So, I think, unreasonably, I might as well be happy. Since that is the bent of my nature.
But if you're happy being reasonably happy, be reasonably happy.
I don't claim this is a coherent ideology, mind you.
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Life does not work very well on subjective relative morals either. I am not saying that we deserve to have objective morality. It does help to be able to agree on something that is tangible and not left to personal preferences.
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Isn't that why we have courts and judges, and all that caboodle? And ethics committees. And people talking about this stuff to each other.
Which isn't to say there's an objective morality "out there" at all. Since customs change over time. But the general consensus, of a particular time, is your "something tangible"?
Which isn't to say there's an objective morality "out there" at all. Since customs change over time. But the general consensus, of a particular time, is your "something tangible"?
So far it seems to me that its more exciting to strugle and clash than to stay in line and 100 % behave. If there was objective morality there would be much less variety. I guess we need to pay the price for creativity too.
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Ah...but 'law (courts and judges and all that caboodle)' is totally not related to morality, and makes no pretense about it. It isn't even connected to reality. It is strictly a function of consensus, no more no less.
You can be found guilty by a jury. That doesn't mean you are, or even mean that guilty in the eyes of the law is not a more positive moral position in some cases.
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