It depends on whether I'm ready for war. I'v only managed to get in one complete game. The first time, my newly discovered swordsmen were still half a continent away, so i lied and backed away far enough to be invisible. the second time all but a samurai were present, so i decided to declare right then. My swords, spear, and archer got pwned in the face, bu the catapults (once they were in range) managed to take down the city defenses as my melee was dying. ONE of my Samurai showed up and the city (and the game) was mine.