MobBoss
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Who cares about the UK or the IDF?
'Don't ask, don't tell' must be scrapped, court says
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Who cares about the UK or the IDF?
ParadigmShifter
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Uncle Frank cares
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
And look how Israel is regarded internationally!
Because it shows that homosexuals and heterosexuals can both service without it being awkward.
Ajidica
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Wait, you can't be saying......
ParadigmShifter
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I think people care more about the opinions of the UK and the IDF than those of a self styled prophet of common sense on an internet gaming forum.
Quackers
The Frog
Maybe 1st world Western nations, akin to the America (especially Britain, not so much Israel) is a good example of what a post-DADT army looks like. And it isn't a complete disaster.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
In the UK or IDF. I humbly submit that the US military culturally isnt like either of those.
ParadigmShifter
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True, the UK normally wins wars they get involved with.
Ajidica
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You constantly say that, but I have seen little to suggest that. The Joint Chiefs seems to hold differing opinions on the repeal of DADT on military readiness. Same with Petraeus.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Rofl, whatever it takes to get you to sleep at night I guess.
Actually, to be accurate, not all the Joint Chiefs are supportive of repealing DADT. You did know that right?
useless
Social Justice Rogue
Ah but you see, it's a "different culture". So that's why it's acceptable to kick LGBTers out of the American army. Excuses much?
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
No, up until recently it was acceptable to kick LGBTers out of the military because that lifestyle was seen to be not compatible with the military.
And what percentage of combat arms soldiers said they approved it? You see, what you offer is only half the story, while 70% of the total surveyed indicated that, if one took the results of combat arms soldiers, the vast majority didnt want DADT repealed. Point being, the Marines, and the Combat branches of the US Army had just about the opposite opinion than say, the Navy or non-combat arms of the various services.
Also, since I actually took that survey, I can tell you how it was written and how the questions posited made it fairly difficult to be adamantly against DADT. IMHO it seemed to be more of a method where one gets statistics to say whatever the hell they wanted it to say.
How so? What does make the US military so special that gays can't openly service?
useless
Social Justice Rogue
How exactly are LGBTer's lifestyles in conflict with military life?
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Well, for example, some other nations allow women in combat arms units. Should we do it too just because they do? Hell no. Women are disallowed in our combat arms units for a variety of reasons, and its simply not a reason to change that simply because country X does.
Quackers
The Frog
How different is the British Army to the American Army, and how are those distinctions relevent to the effectiveness of gays serving in the military?
ParadigmShifter
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Butch lesbians that hate men make excellent killing machines I heard.
