Double Your Pleasure

[RobO]

Originally posted by Kal-el
Instead of Vikings should they be called Scandinavians, or just Danish? I don't like using the term Vikings for a Civ, or am I just being unedumacted here?

I think they should be commercial/expansionist the Viking Raider can be their unique unit. Who is great historical leader? I will have to do some research, or maybe somebody could do the research for me. Maybe somebody who lives in that neck of the woods.

I think Vikings is best - it is well known and as "accurate" as many others.

I think commercial/militaristic would fit better, though commercial/expansionist also has merits.

The unique unit definitely should be an oceangoing longship, historically available from around 800AD or perhaps a bit later, so that should be somewhere around the middle of the second age.

As for leadership - I'm not completely sure, but IIRC King Knut conquered England and Ireland, so he might be a good choice. Perhaps Isak knows more about Viking hsitory

 

[Malaki86]

I'd really like to try out this mod...

However, after downloading everything, reading the installation document, I still have no clue where anything goes...

I'm doing the best I can, but installation should be made *MUCH* easier.

Even if they need to be in separate files for distribution because of the size, how about at least making it so the files can be easily extracted?

 

[Malaki86]

An add-on to my last message - Zips inside of Zips? Do away with that...

make life easier on us out here...

 

[Isak]

make life easier on us out here...

That will happen once version 0.3 (or whatever it will be called) is released

In the meantime check out this page
and scroll down to the "Quick Installation" heading

Following that procedure should fix most problems, but not all....after all we're still beta-testing

About the zips in zips - what files are those? - I can't remember coming across any of those, but then I have a hard time even trying to remember what I did 3 minutes ago

 

[pesoloco]

Originally posted by Kal-el
Instead of Vikings should they be called Scandinavians, or just Danish? I don't like using the term Vikings for a Civ, or am I just being unedumacted here?

I think they should be commercial/expansionist the Viking Raider can be their unique unit. Who is great historical leader? I will have to do some research, or maybe somebody could do the research for me. Maybe somebody who lives in that neck of the woods.

Of course now we will need leaderhead animatins for each of the new civs. I prefer that over static images, don't you?

Leiv Erickson (not sure if spelling is correct) could be either the leader or a Great Leader

Yes - I prefer animated leaderheads too

 

[NightStorm]

Originally posted by Isak
About the zips in zips - what files are those? - I can't remember coming across any of those, but then I have a hard time even trying to remember what I did 3 minutes ago

In file #1, you have Unit Pediaicons.zip and Buildings.zip

 

[GIDustin]

It took 3 ethernet cards, 3 flat cables, 2 fans, 3 12-packs of mountain dew code red, and 5 days, but I finally got my computer working again. I also (while formatting several times) redid a few CGI scripts on my web site. The last thing I want to look at right now is another bloody text file, so the civilopedia may be delayed.

Kal-el: If you plan on adding anything else to the mod, PLEASE send me the civilopedia entries as you add them. It makes it much easier than if you send them in one large sum, and it would be better for my morale.

I just got the Add/Delete hacked version of the 1.21f editor, and I am playing around with it. This patch added alot of features but it seems that 16+ civs will still not 100% work.

Note for additional civs: Before adding civs, make sure you have a UU for it, the animations for the unit, and the leader head files. It takes less time to round those up and then add the civ rather than add the civ, not find the required files, and then remove the civ. (Been there, done that) You can find some leaderheads on my web site (if it is still running stable)

On resources: The more the merrier. I plan on adding AT LEAST 15 in my mod

Also, seeing as I havent been in here for 5 days, I am lost as to what files I need to get your mod working. Does the release manager have a list of files that must be installed in order to get the game to work? (Not everyone who has just found out about the mod want to go through all 14-15 pages of posts to gather all the files. A web site would be handy . . .)

I think that is all I have for now. I will start on the civilopedia entries again once I recover from my computer problems (I seem to have them mostly under control).

GIDustin

 

[Isak]

About the Vikings:

Civilization Name:

Originally posted by Kal-El Instead of Vikings should they be called Scandinavians, or just Danish? I don't like using the term Vikings for a Civ, or am I just being unedumacted here?

Nope, that's actually very educated - the term Vikings was never used by the ..uhm.. Vikings themselves or by any of their enemies - still it is the popular term, so I guess no harm done using it - personally I prefer Normans or just Scandinavians.

Great Leader:
King Knud (Aka. Canute, Knut, Cnut) the Great is often picked for the fact that he reigned over England, Norway and Denmark for 19 years. Alternatives could be Harald Bluetooth (the first King in Scandinavia) or Svein Forkbeard (the King who actually conquered England so that Knud could rule over it) - but again
Knud/Canute is the best known of the Scandinavian kings so....

Leif Eriksson/Leif The Lucky - the guy who found America (though, of course certain native americans were not too surprised with this discovery ) is perhaps more suitable as a Leader Unit. (though it wasn't a bad suggestion Pesoloco)

Whatever you do, don't make Kaupang the Capital (like in Civ2) - the credit for that should really go to the Swedish city Birka.

 

[Abaddon]

ok im new to this all an ive downloaded the 3 files for all the new stuff... what i do now to make it work? ah hell wot i g2 do to make thses work, are there any extra file needed after the very 1st 3 on pg 1 of this thread? :die!: :finger: :rocket2: :ripper: :rocket:

 

[GIDustin]

I am done with the building and large wonder entries in the civilopedia. These are the ones that were listed but had no entry. If someone could make a few and PM them to me, I would be very happy. Please dont post here as this thread is large enough already.

I should have another list (small wonders and units) shortly.

Buildings:
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Academy
Theater
Shrine
Drugstore
District Courthouse
Newspaper
Radio Station
Television Tower
Movie Palace
Computer Network
Slave Market
Forge
Town Clock
Textile Mill
Fishery
Steel Mill
Civil Liberties
Performing Arts Center
WWW Effect
Genetic Tailoring


Large Wonders:
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East India Company
Chichen Itza
Global E-Bank
Big Ben
Edison's Workshop

GIDustin

 

[GIDustin]

I also need pedia entries for these:


Small Wonders:
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Holy City
Governor's Mansion
National Monument
Cable Network
National Electricity Grid
National Health Care
National Sports League
Atomic Weapons Testing

 

[Abaddon]

GI... could you tell me plz

 

[GIDustin]

I have been gone for 5 days - You know more than me

Talk to Isak. He is the guy who knows what files you need and where to put em

 

[Isak]

slozenger:

Just scroll a bit further up the page - I already answered this question a few posts ago

Kal-El:

Could I persuade you to update the first post of the thread to point to my Quick Installation instructions ?

 

[NightStorm]

Originally posted by Isak
Kal-El:

Could I persuade you to update the first post of the thread to point to my Quick Installation instructions ?

Isak,

How about a web site for the Mod...so many other mods have them, why not us?

Anyway, I am a web designer, and it would take me all of 5 minutes to design a web site. Matter of fact, I already have half of it finished. I can also update the first file to remove the two .zip files from within the file. Heck, I can even put all the .zip files into an install file instead and just have a temporary beta install until Kal-el finishes the mod and you put together the final package. All this would just be a temporary thing until you and Kal-el have everthing finalized. Something a little easier for people new to the mod, everything in one place.

 

[GIDustin]

If you need any help, i know CGI

 

[NightStorm]

As you guys are play-testing the game, I need to know if there are any buildings in the tech trees or in the civilopedia that do not have pictures associated with them. That would indicate either 1) no file for the picture or 2) the pediaicons.txt file is pointing to the wrong files. Let me know so that I can get the files created if they are missing.

So far, I know I am missing the following building files and I'm in the process of creating them:

- Great Buddha
- World News Network
- National Health Care
- Basilica

Any others, let me know please.

 

[Isak]

Nightstorm and GIDustin: Since both of you have now pestered me for the website - well okay, I give in, lets get the web-site up and running.

And, Nightstorm - you were the one I was going to bug into making it anywayz, so it's only nice to see you volunteer before I get a chance to beg and grovel

I already got a zip-file with all the files in it - I've been spending the last few days checking through all the unit folders and some of the civilopedia icons and I think this is as updated as can be (though I haven't finished testing yet)

My only problem is....serverspace - the file is 14 MB using best RAR compression

I might be able to find something, but not until next week at best - do any of you have that kind of space/bandwidth available?

 

[Kal-el]

Originally posted by Isak
Kal-El:

Could I persuade you to update the first post of the thread to point to my Quick Installation instructions ?

So shall it be written, so shall it be done.

Originally posted by Nightstorm
How about a web site for the Mod...so many other mods have them, why not us?

I think this is a great idea

About Resources:
Stone will be added

Resources will be required for some buildings. i.e. iron for the Forge and Steel Mill, Marble for Temples and Courthouses, Stone for City Walls, etc., etc., etc.
Timber will be required for all ancient ships 9didn't I say that before?)

Isak, thanks for the info on Knud/Knut/Cnut/Canute. Hard to find a decent picture of this guy.

 

[NightStorm]

Originally posted by Isak
And, Nightstorm - you were the one I was going to bug into making it anywayz, so it's only nice to see you volunteer before I get a chance to beg and grovel

My only problem is....serverspace - the file is 14 MB using best RAR compression

do any of you have that kind of space/bandwidth available?

1) Will go ahead and finish it.

2) My server is limited to 10 megs. Besides, they still don't have FTP working. And Geocities is only 15 megs. So I'm not quite sure were to go.