DPII's Unit Previews

[-0blivion-]

Nope. I haven't. In fact, I'm compiling the FLICs for the Carthaginian War Elephant as we speak.

Great, can't wait

 

[Xen]

with a few alterations, this scotsguardmen becomes the perfect base for a napoleonic, or even a civil war/victoriana era Roman legionary;

 

[Xen]

So now you're using extortion to get units out of me??


Xen, you make an old milkman proud...

Anyway, what is this source? I can't and won't commit to anything right now as I have to get done with these other units first... but after that, anything is negotiable.

I can only hope to live up tot the example of unit extortion that is you dom pedro; you have been a wise and artful master

anyway, they are foundry wargames miniatures- a fantasic source for such art an inpseration- I myself have even bought one fo thier Roman "packs", and am quite happy with it- mind you, I'm not war gamer with minatures, but they really are nice, if you have money to spare (needless to say i did, and bought paint a few "a;teration tools" to put the transferse crest frotn to back, in the way i find preferbale, adn the way they are depicted more often on roman art)

it is also the place where i found the sctos guardmen art, depicted above

anyway, here is the link, to the tang chinese area~
http://www.wargamesfoundry.com/CHINESE/index.asp

 

[Xen]

*as a sid enot, it seems the "punic infantry" in Rome total war that every one is raving about is anything but

its essentally the most typical iberian style trooper I've ever seen, only coloured to match Carthage (and of course, the Iberians were the basis for what would become the Caesarian era legionaries)

Punic infatry woudl essentially be hoplites with a bronze "bullet helmet", and oval sheilds

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

I thought that if you removed the Civ3 Cavalryman from his horse he'd look very Roman-like

 

[Dom Pedro II]

*as a sid enot, it seems the "punic infantry" in Rome total war that every one is raving about is anything but

its essentally the most typical iberian style trooper I've ever seen, only coloured to match Carthage (and of course, the Iberians were the basis for what would become the Caesarian era legionaries)

Punic infatry woudl essentially be hoplites with a bronze "bullet helmet", and oval sheilds

Ok... so what you're saying then is that if I make this Iberian unit, it is effectually a standard Carthaginian unit? Could be an epic-game replacement, OR a Punic War base infantry unit for Carthage? Because that's what I was thinking about doing soon... an infantry unit for the Carthage. The Balearic Slinger covers the light infantry...

 

[cemo1956]

with a few alterations, this scotsguardmen becomes the perfect base for a napoleonic, or even a civil war/victoriana era Roman legionary;

Is this unit coming on somewhere. I think I have issued a wish for some scottish rifleman units and WW1 infantry wearing kilts. These would be great for Celtics nations. Or just plain scottish.
These ones just looks super.

Cemo

Looking forward to the carthagian elelphant too....

 

[Xen]

Ok... so what you're saying then is that if I make this Iberian unit, it is effectually a standard Carthaginian unit? Could be an epic-game replacement, OR a Punic War base infantry unit for Carthage? Because that's what I was thinking about doing soon... an infantry unit for the Carthage. The Balearic Slinger covers the light infantry...

yep; Carthaginains were rabid uses of all things Spanish when it came to infantry (it dosetn seem however, that they toom advatage of what is probabaly the best cavalry in the westernworld at the time though- the ancient Iberians are, after all the people who came up with the spanish war horse, the breed favoured for since the roman repulic to WW1 as the war horse fo choice- and mind you, thier are cave drawings of ancint UIberian horses, showing that the Spanish have ha d a very long connection with the animals...

 

[Louis XXIV]

Ok... so what you're saying then is that if I make this Iberian unit, it is effectually a standard Carthaginian unit? Could be an epic-game replacement, OR a Punic War base infantry unit for Carthage? Because that's what I was thinking about doing soon... an infantry unit for the Carthage. The Balearic Slinger covers the light infantry...

I would say that. This is Carthage when it was famous, not the Carthage of its early times, when they used more of a citizen army that the Syracusans would have used (Xen, correct me if I'm wrong here).

Carthage used Galic Swordsmen as well (Firaxis considered making it their uu, but they added the Celts to the game), but this is more often just for Hannibal's army.

I personally like this picture the best:
http://www.dbaol.com/images/faces/1861_face.jpg

The only difference is, instead of a Gladius, it should have a Falcata, if at all possible.
http://swordforum.com/swd/dt/dt-falcata-largesand.jpg

 

[Dom Pedro II]

I notice that this DBA picture has no plume... should I have a plume or not?

Also, one more point: Somebody requested the Poenic Infantry from Total War, so I don't really know if that's the same thing you guys are referring to, but the pic he showed had those guys with curved shields rather than the flat oval ones the Iberians are holding. At least I thought it was a curved shield... maybe it's not?

 

[Xen]

I notice that this DBA picture has no plume... should I have a plume or not?

Also, one more point: Somebody requested the Poenic Infantry from Total War, so I don't really know if that's the same thing you guys are referring to, but the pic he showed had those guys with curved shields rather than the flat oval ones the Iberians are holding.

both sheilds are correct; a scutum is a sctum; regional variatons produced both flat and oval ones

as for a head crest- I vote yes, because head crests kick ass

 

[Kal-el]

you and plumes!

 

[Xen]

you and plumes!

I'm nothign if not consistent in my unit wants

 

[Sword_Of_Geddon]

Well, at least if the Roman line is finished Xen could potencially move on, but I forget, then theres Cavalry to consider.....lol

 

[Louis XXIV]

I would personally vote against plumes, because it would make it less Roman looking (more distinct), but either way is fine.

 

[No idea]

Oooh! Are you planning on doing a unit like the Poeni Infantry unit I requested? Please do!! Carthage badly needs more units!

 

[DJ Bonebraker]

Duplicate post deleated... I freakin' hate my Internet connection sometimes.

 

[DJ Bonebraker]

Here's a pic from a Ming Dynasty era war manual:

The "Zhanmadao" sword was used as an anti-cavalry sword by infantry. Zhanmadao swords are almost identical to Japanese No-dachi swords.

These swords were known as "Zanbatou" in Japan, and ranged in appearance from Cloud's Buster sword to Sephiroth's No-dachi. Also, such a unit, with realavily minor alterations could be made into a Shinra SOLDIER (wink, wink, nudge, nudge). Zhanmadao and Zanbatou is "horse cleaving sword" in Chinese and Japanese, respectively

 

[-0blivion-]

How are some of the Carthaginian units coming along DP

 

[Goldflash]

How are some of the Carthaginian units coming along DP

Quit Pestering him!